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Clinical descriptions of ME/CFS​

Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a serious, chronic, complex multisystem disease characterized by profound fatigue of new or definite onset, not substantially alleviated by rest, accompanied by post-exertional malaise (PEM)—a hallmark worsening of symptoms following minimal physical or cognitive exertion—and additional core features including unrefreshing sleep and either cognitive impairment or orthostatic intolerance, with symptoms persisting for more than six months and substantially reducing pre-illness activity levels.[1][2] Clinical descriptions emphasize PEM as a cardinal distinguishing symptom, involving a delayed crash in energy production and exacerbation of neurological, autonomic, and immune-related dysfunctions, often triggered by activities well below those tolerated by healthy individuals.[3][4]Diagnostic criteria for ME/CFS have evolved from earlier fatigue-focused definitions, such as the 1994 Fukuda criteria, which required unexplained fatigue plus at least four of eight secondary symptoms but lacked mandatory PEM, to stricter biomedical-oriented frameworks like the 2003 Canadian Consensus Criteria and the 2015 Institute of Medicine (IOM) criteria, which prioritize PEM, systemic exertion intolerance, and exclusion of alternative explanations through clinical evaluation rather than specific biomarkers, as no single diagnostic test exists.[5][6] The IOM criteria, developed via systematic evidence review, identify three obligatory symptoms (activity-limiting fatigue, PEM, unrefreshing sleep) and require at least one of two additional symptoms (cognitive dysfunction or orthostatic intolerance) for diagnosis, aiming to improve clinical utility while acknowledging the illness's heterogeneity and frequent onset following infection or physiological stress.[2][7]Beyond core symptoms, clinical descriptions commonly include orthostatic intolerance (e.g., lightheadedness upon standing), pain (muscle, joint, or headache), sleep disturbances, and neurocognitive issues like memory lapses and concentration deficits, often compounded by immune activation markers, metabolic derangements, and sensory sensitivities, underscoring ME/CFS as a disease of impaired energy metabolism and multisystem failure rather than mere deconditioning.[3] Controversies persist regarding nomenclature and etiology, with historical psychological attributions challenged by empirical evidence of viral triggers, mitochondrial dysfunction, and neuroinflammation, though diagnostic heterogeneity across criteria complicates prevalence estimates and research reproducibility.[8][9] These descriptions guide clinicians toward symptom-based diagnosis of exclusion, emphasizing pacing to avoid PEM crashes, as aggressive exercise therapies have been linked to harm in rigorous patient cohorts.[10]

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Here is some info on Grokipedia from Wikipedia for those unfamiliar with it. In short, it is Elon Musk's AI stuff:

Grokipedia is an AI-generated online encyclopedia operated by the American company xAI. The site was launched on October 27, 2025. Some entries are generated by Grok, a large language model owned by the same company, while others are forked from Wikipedia, with some altered and some copied nearly verbatim. Articles cannot be directly edited, though logged-in visitors to the encyclopedia can suggest corrections via a pop-up form.

External analysis of Grokipedia's content has focused on its accuracy and biases due to hallucinations and potential algorithmic bias,[1][2] which reviewers have described as promoting right-wing perspectives and xAI founder Elon Musk's views.[3][4][5][6] The majority of coverage has described the website as validating, promoting, and legitimizing a variety of debunked conspiracy theories and ideas against scientific consensus on topics such as HIV/AIDS denialism, vaccines and autism, climate change, and race and intelligence.[7] The site has been accused of whitewashing extremism, such as by framing the white genocide conspiracy theory as actively occurring.[7][8] Several right-wing figures have welcomed the site.[9] Studies have highlighted its use of sources deemed as having very low credibility such as Twitter conversations and neo-Nazi websites, and for writing about far-right figures and topics in a promotional manner.
 
Surprisingly, the information in that excerpt could be much worse. It's actually better than a lot of the material on NHS clinic websites. 'Worse information than Grok' - that's quite the indictment of the clinics.

Controversies persist regarding nomenclature and etiology, with historical psychological attributions challenged by empirical evidence of viral triggers, mitochondrial dysfunction, and neuroinflammation, though diagnostic heterogeneity across criteria complicates prevalence estimates and research reproducibility.[8][9] These descriptions guide clinicians toward symptom-based diagnosis of exclusion, emphasizing pacing to avoid PEM crashes, as aggressive exercise therapies have been linked to harm in rigorous patient cohorts.
 
Are people allowed to suggest edits? I'd change "fatigue" to "fatigue-like symptom".
Not really, although it’s trying to copy or replace Wikipedia in some ways, it has none of the community, processes or standards. You can report/suggest edits but the LLM Grok, seemingly with a prompt and bias tilted towards creating content that Musk wants on certain issues, acts as editor. I’m someone who sees value and uses for LLMs. This isn’t one of them.

It may be possible to find accurate content (particularly as much is initially copied from wikipedia) but I don’t see how this approach adds anything to the sum of human knowledge.
 
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Grokipedia misreports death of one the foundational researchers in NLP. Some kind of Frankenstein's monster stuff going on here

 
eta: just reporting on things I find. Not meant as any kind of endorsement.
Hey, it's still pretty damn significant that even though this is the personal vanity project of an egomaniac trying to push his own ideology using the massive financial resources he personally controls, it still does a better job of describing ME/CFS than most official sources and pretty much every single medical textbook out there used by actual medical schools. Mostly because so does wikipedia, but it's still highly symbolic of the state of things, of just how badly medicine has been screwing this up forever.

This makes it very relevant.
 
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