Is there a forum like this for autoimmune conditions?

Is there a forum similar to this one for autoimmune conditions?

I doubt it, @Ken Turnbull. This forum is pretty unusual. There have been lupus forums for years and they aren't bad but there isn't much science. I don't think there would be anything for autoimmunity in general.

But people here know as much about autoimmune disease as anyone I would guess. We have had some in depth discussions. You might do best to raise questions here.
 
Okay, I have a question, not strictly related to my daughter's main illness (but who knows).

She was given a trial of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) by the rheumatologist on the basis that her hypertensive-type OCHOS has an autoimmune basis and that HCQ is reasonably low risk among the DMARDs providing you watch out for side effects and have regular eye examinations.

Unexpectedly, the HCQ resolved wrist and hand pain that she had had for about 15 years. This pain was not overwhelming so it was not something she had stressed to doctors over the years considering everything else she has to deal with.

The wrist pain was only felt during weight-bearing activity and the hand pain was felt after exerting her hands (even mild or moderate exertion). Her hands tended to get red, hot and achy. As she has not been working or doing much normal activity, she didn't particularly rate this as a problem.

She then stopped the HCQ because the prescription ran out and it didn't seem to have had any effect on her OCHOS. But the hand and wrist pain is coming back.

And, she is now realising, having had a break from it for about six months, that it was bothering her more than she realised, and it is quite nice to have pain-free hands on the days when you can manage to do a bit of cooking or gardening.

Is it reasonable to ask for the HCQ to be reinstated to see whether the pain resolves again? Or would she have to go down a diagnostic path to work out what exactly is causing the wrist and hand pain?

Previously she had been told that this pain and some other minor arthritis-type things were early-onset osteoarthritis, which is certainly possible, but now we are not sure. As I understand it, the response to HCQ indicates but does not prove autoimmune involvement.

Edit: It has been pointed out that this post could be seen as asking for medical advice. I apologise for that. We have asked the rheumatologist about this matter several times, but by the time I get my daughter to any appointments we are both exhausted, and on getting home we have realised that he never addressed it.

Up until the pain came back, we had decided to shelve autoimmune investigations as being unlikely to yield anything useful. But now I see my daughter crying because her hands are hurting again, and I wonder whether I should Do Something.

I will ask her GP what to do.

The problem is that everyone says "Oh, just have another appointment to discuss it", but as you all know it aint that easy.
 
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I don't think we should be giving advice around questions relating to individual's problems in this way @Ken Turnbull. We have far too little information. All I can say is that as a rheumatologist I was never convinced that hydroxychloroquine was of any great value or that the evidence was robust except possibly for a formal lupus diagnosis. General arguments about 'autoimmunity' should not be coming in to clinical decisions in this situation.
 
"General arguments about 'autoimmunity' should not be coming in to clinical decisions in this situation."

Clinical decisions should be based on specific evidence relating to a specific condition.'Autoimmunity' covers about fifty diseases with all sorts of different mechanisms. Moreover, it is most commonly used by doctors to cover diseases that aren't even autoimmune.

I don't think we have any reason to think that hydroxychloroquine acts on 'autoimmunity'. It may have an anti-inflammatory effect on joints in a limited context but we don't know why even if it does. Unfortunately there are physicians, especially in the private sector, who throw these statements around without actually having any knowledge of the relevant immunology.
 
Good news - my question is moot, because my daughter got a new prescription and is back on HCQ as of this morning.

It's taken 25 years since her first autoimmune diagnosis, but she is finally on a regimen that she understands and has a good chance of being effective, mostly because of her own reading and persistent questioning.

I just wish we had both had this education and ability before she lost her colon to ulcerative colitis. Life teaches hard lessons.

Apologies again if the post was not right for this forum.

Cheers,
Ken
 
You might check out HealthUnlocked’s autoimmune community or PatientsLikeMe, both have lots of friendly people asking newbie questions.
 
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