Review Long COVID – neurological or somatoform disease?, 2024, Tényi, Tényi, Janszky

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Wyva, Nov 21, 2024.

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  1. Midnattsol

    Midnattsol Moderator Staff Member

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    We see the overlap in Norway too, with the same people saying the same things about pwME and trans.
     
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    Wyva Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Btw, the author of the original paper only included a short reply to Tényi's letter:

    Rough translation:

    Dear Professor,

    I read with great interest your valuable addition, which confirms the timeliness of the topic I have chosen.​

    Respectfully,
    Noémi Somorjai
    I have actually skimmed through her original paper now and I think this is a very elegant way of saying: thank you for proving my point why this is so important to talk about.
     
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    Clearly thinking that their opinion is more valid than the actual life experience of the people they are imagining experience life in a different way, is basically the common thread here. Very aristocratic entitlement.

    Which is anti-science, it's how things used to be done before the scientific revolution, back when people knew next to nothing, and for quite a while until science produced enough answers that there were few things open to speculation anymore. Unfortunately, all things science hasn't explained are still subject to the same level of ignorant speculative opinion-having. Nothing's changed about that, because human nature hasn't changed.

    Which is what makes all of this so hard, that this isn't about us, it's about human nature and how people behave when they can ignore reality and substitute their own. If we crack that dam, there is a flood of nonsense that has to be addressed. It's too embarrassing, and they can simply not bother, they have the power to do so, since governments either support this, or don't care.

    Recently, I watched a shot documentary on the UK post office scandal (by youtube Cold Fusion), and it's roughly the same thing: institutions who know they are wrong, but don't have to care because they are comfortable and safe from peasants behind their castle walls. It's also remarkable how the post office scandal is so tiny and barely a scandal compared to what's been done to people with ME, and that's just one part of this crisis of validity that the medical profession has left rotting for decades. So the rot just keeps on corrupting more things.
     
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    Yann04 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That’s unfortunately much of the fields of psychology/psychiatry.

    Their methods are broken. They can’t reliably distinguish truth from bias. But it doesn’t matter. The fields don’t exist to find objective truth, they exist to legitimise opinions and policy. The replication crisis is a feature, not a bug.
     
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