Long Covid in the media and social media 2023

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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    And add to that brain drain and loss of institutional memory. It doesn't even need to fully disable someone, mild brain fog is enough to bring someone from high performance to below average.

    Lots of companies depend on key workers. No one is irreplaceable but some people are very expensive to replace. Like physicians. I've seen a figure from a hospital administrator saying it costs about $1M to replace one.

    People don't have to stop working entirely to lose what makes their productivity valuable. A healthcare system that only accepts to even look at life-threatening stuff will completely miss this. And sure enough, it has.
     
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    Absolutely, even sporadic job losses will put companies in a jam. And mild declines in cognitive function will have major costs when they cause someone to forget a brilliant idea or result in a serious accident. These effects are so subtle that even guesstimating the costs is hard.
     
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    Easiest way to pretend there is no problem is to just not collect any evidence of it in the first place.

    Unfortunately reality doesn't work that way.
     
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    What even is "specified fatigue"? Clearly the existence of unspecified fatigue implies the existence of specified fatigue.

    I guess it just happens like that. Without a cause. Which is basically spiritualism. Everything has a cause. Even if they want it to mean psychological fatigue, all this means is they can't be honest about what they mean. And what is an expert profession even doing lying on its own data?

    What's amazing is all this pinning everything on the one symptom of fatigue, making everything else derivative of it, is fully generic, all because they can't accept using the also-generic but actually accurate illness. Somehow illness has to be specified, but not fatigue, even though it's even less accurate.

    The whole vocabulary of this profession has to be adjusted. It's been distorted beyond repair simply to fit their traditional beliefs.
     
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    The latest hopeful news relates to metformin, an accessible and affordable drug that’s been U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved to treat Type 2 diabetes since the 1990s. Metformin, which belongs to a class of drugs called biguanides, is taken as a liquid or pill and works by controlling the amount of sugar in the blood. It also decreases inflammation in the body.

    Metformin appeared to be even more effective when used early. Among people who took it within four days of developing symptoms, the risk of Long COVID dropped by more than 60%. In total, about 6% of people who took metformin went on to be diagnosed with Long COVID, compared to more than 10% of the people who took a placebo.


    https://time.com/6263356/long-covid-treatment-prevention/
     
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    https://twitter.com/user/status/1636558285271891968
     
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    From The Washington Post:

    Long-covid symptoms are less common now than earlier in the pandemic

    Regular Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/03/18/long-covid-less-likely/

    Gift Link (no paywall for 14 days): https://wapo.st/3n74Mjl

    I didn't see any mention of ME/CFS.

    I wasn't able to read this very carefully but it looks like the study put everyone with any symptoms after acute COVID infection into a single category.

    Edited to add this quote (last paragraph, my bolding):
     
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    I am not going to include a link but Washington Post columnist Dr. Leana Wen, who has written some pretty horrible opinions over the last few years, actually wrote that more disability in the form of Long Covid will simply become our new normal.
    So, let's not bother trying to avoid COVID and Long Covid? Long Covid will simply become our new normal?? :banghead::banghead::banghead:

    Also, when talking about shifting resources to treatment, what magic treatment(s) does she know about for Long Covid?

    Sorry for the snark but she's being even more irritating than usual.
     
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    Doctors try to explain long COVID. Why don't we know more about it?
    Health News Florida | By Joe Mario Pedersen - WMFE
    why the swap to 'chronic fatigue' halfway thro? and I'm guessing there should be a comma or an and in 'fatigue myalgias'?

    the article features a number of patient accounts

    https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/healt...ain-long-covid-why-dont-we-know-more-about-it
     
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    Aside from the absurdity of a newspaper having to conduct their own epidemiological research because the institutions tasked with this are negligent, by less common they mean slightly less common, and that's based on whatever flawed definition they used, which often focuses on "primary symptoms" and miss out many.

    The medical profession is failing miserably at this, at all levels, and it's so bad that the future of healthcare has to consider working around the profession entirely, or stagnate.

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