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Menopause and ME - what's your experience?

Discussion in 'General and other signs and symptoms' started by Kalliope, May 1, 2019.

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Did you fell any difference in ME symptoms during menopause and how old were you when it started?

  1. Yes, an improvement in ME symptoms

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Yes, a deterioration in ME symptoms

    18 vote(s)
    47.4%
  3. No, there were no difference in ME symptoms

    11 vote(s)
    28.9%
  4. Under 40

    4 vote(s)
    10.5%
  5. 40-44

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  6. 45-49

    11 vote(s)
    28.9%
  7. 50-54

    13 vote(s)
    34.2%
  8. 55 or over

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
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  1. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I was asked today whether I'd heard if any ME patients got better or worse during menopause?

    I've only heard that ME patients seems to enter menopause a bit earlier than what's usual, but not if it might have an effect on the disease itself. Said I'd ask on this forum to see if someone would like to share their experiences.

    The reason behind the question, was that this particular ME patient is feeling a bit better after having entered menopause.
     
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  2. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I didn't notice any difference to my ME once I settled into meno. There is no 'usual' time for entering meno. The average age is 52, however, for lots of women it can be in their 40s. I know some women who are almost 60 and are still waiting.
     
  3. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    You could run a poll asking what age women here with ME started the menopause, and whether it made their ME worse, the same or better. It wouldn't be a scientific poll, but it might be interesting. And those who don't want to identify themselves with a comment could still take part.
     
  4. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thank you for answering @TigerLilea and interesting to hear you didn't notice any difference. Sorry if I worded it in a clumsy way, I was thinking of this paper
    "Early menopause and other gynecologic risk indicators for chronic fatigue syndrome in women"
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5745581/
     
  5. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    That's a good suggestion!

    How about:

    Did you feel any difference in ME symptoms during menopause?

    Yes, an improvement in ME symptoms
    Yes, a deterioration in ME symptoms
    No, there were no difference in ME symptoms
     
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  6. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks good.

    Since you can have up to 10 options you could, if you want to also include an age question, like when did your menopause start:
    under 40
    40- 44
    45 - 49
    50- 54
    55 or over
     
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  7. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Symptoms made much worse with meno.

    I started meno at age 52 which is the average age.
     
  8. obeat

    obeat Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Orthostatic intolerance and cognitive fatiguability much worse since menopause. Oddly I had the best year in 25 years prior to onset of menopause, so it was a major shock to deteriorate significantly over 6 months.
     
  9. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes. Great idea. I added them.
     
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  10. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thank you for answering. I'm sorry to hear you got worse.
     
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  11. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So sorry to hear that, @obeat .Thanks for answering.
     
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  12. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Please feel free to answer the poll. :thumbsup:
    As @Trish says, you won't share your name/nick by responding to the poll.

    ETA: Bah! A typo in the poll's question. :facepalm:"Fell" is supposed to be "feel". Hope people will get it
     
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  13. Trish

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    You're stretching my memory somewhat here, @Kalliope. My menopause started around 43/4 and I'm 69 now, so it's lost in the mists of time! I put no change, basically because I can't remember. My ME was mild at the time, and I continued working part time before, during and after.
     
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  14. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thanks for answering, @Trish It really is hard to remember how one was doing many years ago. But no changes in part time work sounds like quite a good indicator.

    IF a connection between ME and early menopause is confirmed, I wonder if the duration of the illness beforehand would have anything to say..
     
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  15. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @Kalliope When you say 'menopause' are you specifically talking about the time when a woman no longer has any periods, or are you referring to 'perimenopause', the period of time leading up to menopause? Menopause is the stretch of time from your very last period until you die.
     
  16. Trish

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    That's a good point, @TigerLilea. When I suggested the age question I specifically wrote it as 'when did your menopause start', but of course that could include when did you start noticing symptoms, or perimenopause, or it could mean when did you have your last period.
     
  17. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Huh, good question. I think we'll just go for menopause for now, but I'm sure an exploration of perimenopause could be interesting as well.
     
  18. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    My peri started when I was 50 and then meno was at age 52. However, I didn't start having hot flashes until five months later.
     
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  19. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The reason I questioned it is some women think of meno as just being the years leading up to their last period and then meno is over. They don't realize that once you hit meno, it is permanent.
     
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  20. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    True, but for most of us after a few years the specific menopause symptoms like hot flushes go away.
     
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