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News from France

Discussion in 'Regional news' started by ME/CFS Skeptic, Dec 7, 2020.

  1. MSEsperanza

    MSEsperanza Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    German documentary about living with ME/CFS on French-German public service TV channel, 10.07.2021, 22:40

    (also available on the website during the day)

    Le syndrome de fatigue chronique - L’EM/SFC, une maladie trop peu (re)connue - Regarder le documentaire complet | ARTE

    "Des millions de personnes souffrent du syndrome de fatigue chronique, ou encéphalomyélite myalgique (EM/SFC) : un épuisement extrême et persistant, pour lequel il n'existe aucun remède. Enquête."

    https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/096283-000-A/le-syndrome-de-fatigue-chronique/

    For info in English see News from Germany thread.
     
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  2. rvallee

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    A planned national study, named COCOLATE, has not started yet because of funding woes, so a team is doing a study on what appears to be the immune response to vaccination. In Paris.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1412725975008301056
     
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  5. rvallee

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    So a group of French physicians is publishing a book with all the answers: "Long Covid: how to get over it". Over in 8 weeks, exercise, nutrition and well-being. Fortunate for them no one has ever thought of that before. They totally cracked it. Geniuses, it's fully solved, nothing left to do. And the quackery mill mills on.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1424485261988204545
     
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  6. rvallee

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    So turns out this is actually worse, at least one of the authors is involved with the HAS committee advising the government on Long Covid. And this is their program: "reconditioning" people by making them exercise to complete exhaustion. To quote: "we make them pedal until they can't anymore".

    There is a serious, fundamental, problem in medicine with learning from experience. Many physicians are completely unable to, and in good fashion they can't recognize that and believe they are absolutely nailing it. They can go through formal training memorizing textbooks but they are completely unable to learn on their own. Without a feedback mechanism and an answer sheet, they are simply incapable of recognizing what's in front of them. This is a major problem. Truly there should be tiers in medicine, the idea that everyone who goes through medical school can function as a fully licensed and independent physician is clearly wrong, some need to operate under constant supervision and should not exceed the textbook, they are incapable of it anyway.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1424513245487017988
     
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  7. chrisb

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    That takes a very special sort of stupidity.
     
  8. rvallee

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    So things are definitely not getting better in France. Not sure how much reach this show has but some professor of tropical medicine (what's up with professors of tropical diseases and quackery?!) saying that effort-based rehabilitation basically works 100% of the time at their clinic, probably as long as you don't measure anything. The replies suggest this may be a tad bit dishonest.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1426237830003576834
     
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  9. NelliePledge

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    Good to see plenty of push back shame it is necessary
     
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  10. Sean

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    :banghead: :mad:

    We still have a long way to go. :grumpy:
     
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    Mobilization in Grenoble to demand recognition of myalgic encephalomyelitis, a disabling disease "neglected"



    https://www.archytele.com/mobilizat...ephalomyelitis-a-disabling-disease-neglected/
     
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  12. ME/CFS Skeptic

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    Looks like a useful demonstration. Thanks to Chantal Somm and the volunteers of Millions Missing France for making this happen.

    This is a good video about it for those who understand some French.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh19yb9hl0k


     
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  13. rvallee

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    Another in Paris.

    Given the size of Long Covid and how small those protests are, the protests the ME community organized over the years look pretty damn solid all things considered. I wonder if there will ever be a fair and thorough account of everything that was done to change this.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1450178443472252929
     
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    In this video, Johann's testimony is revealing of EM, but in the end the comment from the GP is horrible. This doctor brings everything back to the simple fatigue experienced in modern society.
     
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    It seems that some French long haulers who were hospitalized are being sent ads to participate in a mindfulness thingy by the health services. But wait, there's more: they're charged €400. Because it's not insulting enough, asking people to pay for their own gaslighting is... well, typical, frankly.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1463632402853634060
     
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