NHS 'cover your mouth and nose' UK-wide update as H3N2 strain spreads
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postviral?1971
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Have had the vaccine but caught flu or something similar. Aches and stiffness in joints, then laryngitis. Takes about 2-3 weeks. Not seriously ill but our local hospital now asks visitors to wear masks. Please take care!
alktipping
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TO little to late . I am in to my third week waiting for coughing to go away . Wonderful care workers refusing to wear mask or take time of when sick brought this gift to me and my frail 81 year old mother . shame it is not possible to sue for what i see as a complete disregard of others health.
BrightCandle
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I do wonder how long its going to take for the Inquest (and science generally) of airborne spread to finally get into the NHS. They seem impervous to the evidence at the moment and are still issuing surgical masks, which everyone knows is not PPE and does not meet the health and safety standard for being protective against viruses and yet they keep doing it. They also don't seem to have learnt you have to take the societal measures before all the people start turning up in hospital, that is the event a week or so after the infections were spread, controlling after the impact is already occurring doesn't work.
Very doubtful this changes any time soon. Every health care system has adopted defiance of reality, public health has regressed to the time of miasma theory, just not wanting airborne infections to be real, except even worse because ventilation is not part of the toolkit anymore and physics no longer apply to reality.
Most physicians seem content with the "infections are good for you" dogma, and the profession is under such tight control that no one will be rocking any boats. Their employment depends on it and everyone knows it. It's always safe to be wrong, and being right always goes punished.
Like most of our institutions, it just only serves power now. I guess people aren't really noticing but we don't really live in free democratic societies serving the common good. Not that this was ever fully true but now the institutions don't even bother pretending anymore. Corruption has spread everywhere, it's everything now.
perchance dreamer
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When you feel a sneeze coming on, you might not have time to get a tissue. Sneezing or coughing into your elbow is better if you aren't wearing a mask.
Every time I see someone coughing or sneezing into their hands in public, I'm really glad I'm wearing a mask.
Every time I see someone coughing or sneezing into their hands in public, I'm really glad I'm wearing a mask.
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BrightCandle
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Even in the miasma theory period they did things about the bad smells like wearing plague masks and replacing the bad smelling water. We are in the age of "well actually infections are good for you" while people die phase, its truly a complete rejection of science. ME patients have been dealing with a rejection of reality and science in medicine for much longer, its never actually been an industry that was anything but vaguely based on science sometimes anyway. Its like one of those TV shows "based on a true story".
Ash
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The NHS did this. To workers to patients to all of us.
Each time now that the NHS rediscovers some notion of infection control it's when an outbreak is already in full swing. These temporary protective policies may last long enough or go to such an extent that would be hospital visitors notice that their inpatient loved ones aren't visitable. But never long enough or going far enough to prevent hospitalisations of the loved ones in the first place. The re-forgetting of infection control as a necessary facet of medicine and the disposal of protective measures begins almost immediately.
As long as the NHS maintains this deliberate in-house ignorance on matters of infection and its campaign of public misinformation on matters of infection, we'll all circle this drain. It'll be the same or worse come the winter. The next and the next and on into the future. For those fortunate enough not to succumb to infection.
The NHS employs the most and lack of ventilation and air purification upgrades PPE and other measures makes its current position a direct workplace health and safety hazard. The workers are dying in higher numbers than before the pandemic. They're off sick more often and leaving the profession more often. But the unions haven't touched this embracing denial, or else have been astonishingly ineffectual in their efforts.
Each time now that the NHS rediscovers some notion of infection control it's when an outbreak is already in full swing. These temporary protective policies may last long enough or go to such an extent that would be hospital visitors notice that their inpatient loved ones aren't visitable. But never long enough or going far enough to prevent hospitalisations of the loved ones in the first place. The re-forgetting of infection control as a necessary facet of medicine and the disposal of protective measures begins almost immediately.
As long as the NHS maintains this deliberate in-house ignorance on matters of infection and its campaign of public misinformation on matters of infection, we'll all circle this drain. It'll be the same or worse come the winter. The next and the next and on into the future. For those fortunate enough not to succumb to infection.
The NHS employs the most and lack of ventilation and air purification upgrades PPE and other measures makes its current position a direct workplace health and safety hazard. The workers are dying in higher numbers than before the pandemic. They're off sick more often and leaving the profession more often. But the unions haven't touched this embracing denial, or else have been astonishingly ineffectual in their efforts.