Publication of the NICE ME/CFS guideline after the pause (comment starting from the announcement of 20 October 2021)

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  1. Dx Revision Watch

    Dx Revision Watch Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well enough in advance of announcing the postponement on 17 August, for press releases not to have already gone out.
     
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  2. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Just checked the NICE site yet again, guess it is time to give up on expecting anything to be announced today.
     
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  3. adambeyoncelowe

    adambeyoncelowe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I would wait a few days. NICE isn't the fastest and with big decisions, they'll need time to get things right.

    If it comes before next week, that'll be a lovely treat, but they'll probably have to contact stakeholders first with additional (probably embargoed) information and then release the guideline after that.

    That means at least a few days will have to occur between meeting and publication.
     
  4. TiredSam

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    Breathing for ME is a thing, one of the doctors of renown in the US recommends it, I can't remember which one. I got a breathing app and practiced breathing lying on the floor for a few weeks, but it made no difference and I got bored so I stopped.

    I was asked today whether I'd tried yoga.
     
  5. Barry

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    Maybe it will be a midnight-hour release.

    Edit: Or maybe not :) ...
     
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  6. adambeyoncelowe

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    If I'm wrong, then that'll be a lovely surprise.
     
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  7. Peter Trewhitt

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    I had been hoping today there would have been an announcement of the timescale for publication, rather than the actual publication itself.

    I agree they will want to contact steak holders and sort press releases etc before publication. So though Friday might have been a possibility a longer delay was always equally possible, especially as we don’t know how they plan to pursue the clarifications coming out of the round table event.
     
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    Suffolkres Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    [QUOTE="chrisb, post: 385035, member: 34m]Doesn't that quote in the source cited refer to Wessely?[/QUOTE]
    Yes.. but
    [QUOTE="Peter Trewhitt, post: 385430, member: 470"

    I agree they will want to contact steak holders and sort press releases etc before publication.[/QUOTE]
    Couldn't resist Peter.
    Even looks like Dr P!
     

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  9. Dx Revision Watch

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    That would mean that media releases would have to have gone out late yesterday afternoon or early today.
     
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    Okay are we staying up until midnight to refresh @NICEcomms twitter together?

    ...And every night from now on?
     
  11. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't bother. I think they will publish the minutes of the roundtable and a date for publication of the guideline this week, and publish the guideline next week. I have no evidence to support that. I just don't think it's in NICE's interests to spring the guideline on everyone without warning of the publication date.
     
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    They need to allow themselves time to get to the airport after publication before anyone notices, so 3am sounds about right.
     
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  13. Ariel

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    I was kind of half-joking, but I do hope they do a statement soon clarifying the timeline. :)
     
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  14. Barry

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    Probably not :). My staying up won't make any difference to the timing, so not going to worry myself.
     
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    It is said that breathing a certain way can stimulate the vagus nerve, in a similar way to micro current devices
     
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    all sorts of things are said.
     
  17. Ariel

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    I would watch this movie
     
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  18. Dx Revision Watch

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    I agree. I very much doubt we will see the finalised guideline and associated documents and resource materials this side of the weekend.
     
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    Yea Northern Ireland has no specialist service to the best of my knowledge. @Keela Too

    However, I'm hoping that the changes for the better in the UK will e.g. be picked up elsewhere (European Union is one example) @Michiel Tack
     
  20. Keela Too

    Keela Too Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    No. You are right. No specialist service yet. Long story.
     
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