Research priorities for ...(ME/CFS): the results of a James Lind alliance priority setting exercise, 2022, Tyson et al

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    I'm not sure whether this was open access initially but it is now.
     
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    A few comments though I have not read the paper.

    Priority 3 - diagnosis

    Does it entail finding a diagnostic biomarker, training of healthcare professionals so that they can recognise ME, or both?

    If it is about finding a diagnostic test, the NICE guideline already says this is a key recommendation for research. I would think that most respondents understood this priority as “we need more basic research into the mechanisms of ME and that would lead to identifying a biological test”. In any case it probably just circles back to priority 2, that is, figuring out PEM.

    Given that it will take years to get a diagnostic test, training HCPs to be able to recognize ME (as per the NICE guideline) is just as much of a priority. Even if and when a test becomes available, ME will have to be suspected on clinical grounds first.

    Priority 6 - post-infectious ME

    There is a need for definitive epidemiological proof that ME can be triggered by infections. We do have some prospective studies such as the Dubbo study and Leonard Jason’s post-infectious mononucleosis ME study, but the only a small number of cases emerged in those and they weren’t followed up for long (1 year at most).

    I think we could benefit from a nationwide epidemiological study that would enroll patients with an acute documented infection, whether in primary care or at the hospital, and follow them up over the long term (e.g. at 3, 6, 12 months, then 2 & 3y, then 5 & 10y). Of course, this requires significant funding.

    Priority 9 - severe ME

    Severe ME made the top 10 but I suspect that if more people with ME and/or their carers had been able to respond, it may have placed higher. I certainly would have preferred to see it up there as it may have incentivised the DHSC to consider it as more of an urgent topic.
     
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    That work continues- These patients and their peer controls at the university are being longitudinally studied
     
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    Sadly I think - but it should only be with the right people - we will get volunteers because I was pushed beyond this every day for so many years due to lack of understanding. The only way to have stopped this (and people still don't 'get' the magnitudes now) is to have a print-out proving it.

    I probably would have given that was every week for me, as long as my workplace (any other important back-ups financially) was behind me ie I could get 'dispensation' for the fall-out and it wouldn't have left me high and dry should I not recover by invalidating certain things - which will be where the interesting issue is. Given BPS claims it doesn't exist and did it as part of a treatment for so long. Can both be true?

    You probably can split it and reduce the extent to under what might happen at a peak work time when under pressure and still see an effect that could be extrapolated for many of these things though. Or cover your back by picking those who are already stuck in these situations - and do the tests after their days of work.

    What is the really impossible bit is the fact that proper damage is really done longitudinally - cumulatively. I can't think of any safe way of doing this other than adding up the 'one-off effects' and much better clinics with proper scientists alongside clinicians replacing the therapists. In order that their focus is more on measures that don't do harm but do monitor downward curves and will have good history takers to work out what explains these.

    The world is full of people who will question reality or think it is maleable or a negotiation. Might work with most illnesses, devastating with ME as 'just 10% more' might as well be just 200% more than your threshold vs 'just 10% more' than other chronic illnesses - where the results show at the time, people feel guilty, pull their demand at 5% and don't ask again.
     
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