I think it might be important to note that education doesn't necessarily equal high pay in Norway, and we have a highly educated population.
The chronically ill patient population was created by drawing individuals registered in NPR with the following ICD-10 diagnoses: C50 "Malignant neoplasm of breast", M79.7 "Fibromyalgia", G35 "Multiple sclerosis", and A962 "Lyme disease". These diagnoses were chosen because they include other chronically diseases with increased disease burden for a long but limited time frame. In addition, they either share clinical characteristics with ME/CFS and/or disproportionately affect women, which previous research has shown is the case also for ME/CFS
They use a washout period - so education and income are estimated 5 to 7 years before the period where new hospital records coded with ME/CFS are included. This is done to reduce the chance that the illness in the period before diagnosis influences educational attainment and income. Education is taken as the highest attainment of either the person or either of their parents.The first factor is related to how we operationalize ME/CFS in this study. We only include ME/CFS patients that are diagnosed in the specialized healthcare services in Norway with the ICD code G93.3 which excludes all individuals that are either diagnosed in primary care or that suffer from undiagnosed ME/CFS.
Taken at face value, there seems to be a reverse effect of education for ME/CFS as we find that low educational attainment strongly reduces the risk of ME/CFS diagnosis, relative to medium educational attainment, when comparing with the healthy population sample controls. However, our analyses do not indicate that this is an epidemiological effect of low educational attainment that is unique for the risk of ME/CFS, rather it seems to reect the relationship between educational attainment and the risk of chronic disease in general. When comparing with a population consisting of hospitalized controls this effect is already accounted for in the model, and we see that the effect of low education is reduced to 11% and just becomes statistically insignicant (p=0.055). However, this is very close to being statistically signicant and we argue that this suggests that there are effects of educational attainment and the risk of ME/CFS even when comparing with a population that innately controls for the effect of educational attainment on the likelihood of hospital diagnosis. This nding should be taken together with the fact that we do nd a statistically signicant increase in risk of ME/CFS diagnosis for people with high educational attainment when comparing with hospital diagnosed controls.
This suggests that there is an effect of educational attainment on the risk of ME/CFS diagnosis, even when comparing with a population that innately controls for the existing relationship between SES and chronic disease in general. It is, however, unlikely that this is an epidemiological effect of educational attainment on the risk of ME/CFS, though it is theoretically possible given how poorly the disease is understood. What is more likely, is that given the unique characteristics of ME/CFS, specically the lack of medical tests and the need for clinical diagnosis that naturally follows from the lack of objective tests and biomarkers, the cohort consisting of people with low educational attainment is probably less likely to receive an ME/CFS diagnosis, compared to people with medium educational attainment. Individuals from families in the low educational attainment group or individuals with low educational attainment does not necessarily have a reduced risk of the disease as a function of their education level. Our findings could rather be interpreted as that they are less able to ask for, or less likely to receive a G93.3 diagnosis in meeting with the specialized healthcare system.
If it is the case that individuals with low educational attainment are less likely to receive due to factors related to health literacy, clinical perceptions of low SES patients or healthcare access, then this needs to be addressed in order to avoid underdiagnosing individuals with ME/CFS.
Primary care in Norway doesn't use G93.3, but A04, which is not ME-specific but rather "fatiguing illness" or similar. This is a bit problematic since after 2014 (or thereabout) the new guidelines for ME/CFS says that patients should be diagnosed by their primary doctor not a specialist.Re the type of ME/CFS patients:
So I would have been coded as a teen dropout, but with higher attainment from my parents. Huh.They use a washout period - so education and income are estimated 5 to 7 years before the period where new hospital records coded with ME/CFS are included. This is done to reduce the chance that the illness in the period before diagnosis influences educational attainment and income. Education is taken as the highest attainment of either the person or either of their parents.
There was a study on nutrition literacy not so long ago with samples from a health campus in Norway, health literacy is not necessarily high even in those of us with higher education in health careThey conclude that the family educational attainment of people affects the risk of an ME/CFS diagnosis, even when compared to a population that controls for the impact of socioeconomic status on the likelihood of receiving a chronic disease diagnosis. They think the mechanism is likely to be that people with ME/CFS with high education attainment are better able to engage with the health system to get a diagnosis.
Right. With the new guidelines in Norway Canada criteria is supposed to be used, which doesn't mean PEM is necessarily considered but if data is older this problem would likely be larger? I think the study that showed 80% of those that were sent on to specialists didn't have ME came from before the guideline change (note: 80% of those where the cases were unclear for their doctors and thus they were referenced to a specialist, not 80% of all ME patients).And G93.3 is "Postviral and related fatigue syndromes", so no guarantee of PEM.
This seems expected given the difficulties in getting a diagnosis, which is more likely for people who can fight the system and confront GPs who want to run the usual abandonment script. It takes a certain level of privilege to be able to do this, let alone succeed at it.When comparing the risk of ME/CFS diagnosis with a population consisting of people with four specific chronic diseases, we find that high educational attainment is associated with a 19% increase (OR: 1.19) in the risk of ME/CFS and that high household income is associated with a 17% decrease (OR:0.83) in risk of ME/CFS. In our second model we compare with a healthy population sample, and found that low educational attainment is associated with 69% decrease (OR:0.31) in the risk of ME/CFS and that low household income is associated with a 53% increase (OR: 1.53).
In presentations at least the team have been very clear on the inequalities in health care and how being more educated will likely help you get a diagnosis.I think they skipped the first semester bachelor presentation of the difference between causation or correlation.
Unless you’re Norwegian and have listened to their presentations no way for you to have knownGood on them then! My bad to judge before digging deep.
The health literacy in the Norwegian population is not exactly thought to be good. One in three is believed to at or below the "lowest level of health competence". In this case there are three levels of competence, and being at level 2 or 3 is considered sufficient. This is what is said about the requirement for being at level 2 (and above):They've written a summary on Facebook:
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Today, Geir and Kjartan from Sintef have published the first register data analysis from Tjenestenog MEg.
In the article, they find a strong statistical association between higher education and being given a G93.3 diagnosis by the specialist health service.
They write that it is unlikely that this is an epidemiological effect of high education on ME risk, although there is still much we do not know about this disease.
The findings can at present be interpreted as those with lower education being less able to ask for, or less likely to receive, a G93.3 diagnosis in an encounter with the specialist health service.
They write that if it should be the case that people with low education have a lower chance of getting an ME diagnosis due to factors associated with poorer "health literacy" and clinical perceptions of patients with low socioeconomic status, then this should be addressed.
More research is needed in this area.
Not sure I'd use similar concepts to describe the necessary knowledge to advocate for oneself to get a correct diagnosis.Health Literacy in the Norwegian Population survey said:For example, respondents at level 2 typically find it easy to "understand information on food packaging" (able to make healthy choices), and respondents who score in the upper range of level 2 also find it "easy" to "assess the advantages and disadvantages of different treatments" (choose between different treatment options).
The treatment is consideration to prevent deterioration.I will add that there is no value proposition to getting a diagnosis, because ME has no treatment, other doctors won't take the diagnosis seriously and pwME are usually denied disability in most parts of the world.
What code is there for PEM-ME, or ICC-ME?And G93.3 is "Postviral and related fatigue syndromes", so no guarantee of PEM.
Doctors hate this one trickOf course more educated people are more likely to be diagnosed with ME/CFS. Because they can do the research and self-advocacy necessary to get diagnosed.
No.Does it also make any difference whether the Dr is male or female?