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(Spanish) Effectiveness of graduated therapeutic exercise and CBT in CFS a systematic review, 2020, Polo Ferrandez

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Dolphin, Jul 26, 2020.

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  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://gredos.usal.es/bitstream/ha...ez_EjercicioFatiga.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

    From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks


    Source: University of Salamanca
    Date: June 2020
    URL: https://gredos.usal.es/handle/10366/143718

    https://gredos.usal.es/bitstream/ha...ez_EjercicioFatiga.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
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    Dolphin, Jul 26, 2020
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    wigglethemouse Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Will the pain EVER end...... Uggghhh.

    They say the importance of individualized therapy but then think standardized treatment protocols would be interesting. Are they not contradicting themselves.
     
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  3. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So, so depressing.
     
    Peter Trewhitt, Jul 26, 2020
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  4. Mike Dean

    Mike Dean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This is coursework by a trainee physio. Very limited search strategy; studies not evaluated for sources of bias; original authors' claims of efficacy and safety taken at face value. Can be safely ignored.
     
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  5. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe @PhysiosforME could ping them an email with a bit of advice?
     
    NelliePledge, Jul 26, 2020
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    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    GIGO.

    Again.

    Is it really not thought necessary to throw in a course module on critical thinking or how to evaluate "evidence" before you go round recommending treatments?

    Though it's a trainee and this is the treatment "preferred" by the system the conclusions are hardly surprising.
     
    Invisible Woman, Jul 26, 2020
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    Sly Saint, Jul 26, 2020
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    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This is really just the perpetuation of bad science due to unhelpful beliefs.
     
    Barry, Jul 26, 2020
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    PhysiosforME Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ah yes I think this may have come our way already! Will share with the others - we have a semi standard response now!
     
    PhysiosforME, Jul 27, 2020
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