Samuel
Senior Member (Voting Rights)
idk where to post this, and idk what value it has.
it has been claimed in an online comment to be relevant to
[1] cytokine storm on
https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-why-are-some-people-experiencing-long-term-fatigue-141405
"A number of strains produce pyrogenic toxins which are the likeliest cause of the cytokine cascade in Covid-19"
and [2] suggested to be related to long covid in the same place
and [3] itself says it is relevant to chronic diseases.
with a [4] possible whiff of alternativeness [by which i mean idk anything about what body of research lies behind it].
the paper is
https://www.jscimedcentral.com/Microbiology/microbiology-5-1037.pdf
and https://www.jscimedcentral.com/Microbiology/vol5issue1.php for non-pdf.
"The research programme that we should pursue is therefore
clear. Measure urinary IgG, serum inflammatory markers and
faecal carriage of S. aureus in a wide range of chronic diseases.
If there is evidence of increased staphylococcal carriage and
staphylococcal bacteraemia then encourage the patient and family
members to consume yoghurt (natural, live, no added sugar, full
fat) on a daily basis thereafter."
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given that at least one of the m.e. cytokine studies [wpi i think] reported particularly high il-6 and high il-8 in one m.e. cohort, i wonder if that is relevant to covid cytokine storm or long covid in a subset of pwme.
also i wonder whether undetected existing upper respiratory staph colonization or infection could be relevant to m.e.
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ETA: it looks like a prospective study reported transient high il-6?: https://theconversation.com/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-new-evidence-of-biological-causes-108854
it has been claimed in an online comment to be relevant to
[1] cytokine storm on
https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-why-are-some-people-experiencing-long-term-fatigue-141405
"A number of strains produce pyrogenic toxins which are the likeliest cause of the cytokine cascade in Covid-19"
and [2] suggested to be related to long covid in the same place
and [3] itself says it is relevant to chronic diseases.
with a [4] possible whiff of alternativeness [by which i mean idk anything about what body of research lies behind it].
the paper is
https://www.jscimedcentral.com/Microbiology/microbiology-5-1037.pdf
and https://www.jscimedcentral.com/Microbiology/vol5issue1.php for non-pdf.
"The research programme that we should pursue is therefore
clear. Measure urinary IgG, serum inflammatory markers and
faecal carriage of S. aureus in a wide range of chronic diseases.
If there is evidence of increased staphylococcal carriage and
staphylococcal bacteraemia then encourage the patient and family
members to consume yoghurt (natural, live, no added sugar, full
fat) on a daily basis thereafter."
===
given that at least one of the m.e. cytokine studies [wpi i think] reported particularly high il-6 and high il-8 in one m.e. cohort, i wonder if that is relevant to covid cytokine storm or long covid in a subset of pwme.
also i wonder whether undetected existing upper respiratory staph colonization or infection could be relevant to m.e.
===
ETA: it looks like a prospective study reported transient high il-6?: https://theconversation.com/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-new-evidence-of-biological-causes-108854
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