The Born Free Protocol

[EndME]

It seems most of the focus on the online discussion is about whether or not certain individuals are benefiting financially from something and how much CBT/GET is included in it all. Which all might be relevant for certain arguments but is completely irrelevant to the question "is this nonsense pseudoscience and is that the path to follow?".

 

[ryanc97]

I already mentioned one look at her X feed (Julie Bush) and you know she's a completely unreliable source. But my post got removed.

 

[ryanc97]

"Anktiva dose 3: i’m getting pain & pressure in my small intestine. 4/10. i’ve had this with all 3 doses as well. i think it finds all the places you have viral persistence and lights them up (these are my covid areas!) the red patch on my belly is the size of an alcohol swab."

She has convinced herself there are covid virus particles in her small intestine and her NK and T cells are killing them and she can feel the pain of it. I don't know what to say.

 

[MrMagoo]

If I was confident of my audience I'd be very tempted to put him up as an exemplar. "This is the kind of weapons-grade grift being targeted at our community".

Apparently it’s not a grift because its purpose isn’t to make money. As if grifting doesn’t often comprise ego, plaudits, undue praise etc

 

[MrMagoo]

Yeah, he replied to that question posting a pic of himself wearing a tee-shirt. He's got too much time on hands. He's an AI generated 'clinician'.

Well that just confirms he’s obtuse, unless he changes his avatar which is the widely-publicised photo of him….wearing a white coat.
So is he reading here? Hi Josh, I don’t agree with your behaviours. Let me know when there’s a published trial outcome ready for peer review.

 

[Kitty]

Apparently it’s not a grift because its purpose isn’t to make money. As if grifting doesn’t often comprise ego, plaudits, undue praise etc

I'm happy to change 'weapons-grade grift' to 'weapons-grade shite' if it helps with accuracy.

 

[MrMagoo]

I'm happy to change 'weapons-grade grift' to 'weapons-grade shite' if it helps with accuracy.

I dunno, I think you’re entitled to your truly held opinion, last time I saw the definition of free speech

 

[Trish]

I dunno, I think you’re entitled to your truly held opinion, last time I saw the definition of free speech

A little reminder for anyone unfamiliar with the forum. This is not a free speech space, it is a moderated rules based space.

 

[InitialConditions]

This, from the main protocol page, is exactly what Paul Garner preaches — there's no difference. Garner could have written this. Just pointing that out (not commenting on the science of it all, and it's potential application in ME/CFS, as it's just another hypothesis at this stage).

 

[Hutan]

he [Joshua Leisk] also seems to communicate with the OMF, isn't that encouraging?

Whitney Dafoe has been suggesting that his recent improvements may be due to the Born Free Protocol, discussed here:
Whitney Dafoe Updates

 

[InitialConditions]

He was also invited to talk at one of the Stanford ME/CFS Working Group meetings:

 

[ryanc97]

My take on the BF protocol, with the amount of supplements and drugs you pump into your system its possible you hit one that improves your symptoms. Which is what Whitney did.

But it's obvious the guy is a grifter looking to scam gullible ME patients out of money. Obviously he must have a link somewhere to a course you can buy OR he puts a link to his partner pharmacy and gets a cut of the supplement revenue.

For Julie, it's quite annoying the only person in the Anktiva LC trial is so unreliable.