The Mirror: Veterans with debilitating Gulf War Syndrome may have passed it on to children

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British forces veterans suffering Gulf War Syndrome may have given it to their children.

New medical research has revealed troops who served in Iraq are more likely to have damage to DNA that could be passed on during reproduction.

Experts in the US – where the illness is recognised – claim to have found the first proof of a biological link to debilitating symptoms suffered by servicemen involved in the 1990-1991 conflict.

Almost 75 per cent of the 53,000 UK soldiers there were given an anthrax vaccine. Many were also exposed to depleted uranium in some weapons.

Thousands reported a raft of disorders on their return home, including extreme fatigue, dizziness, strange rashes, nerve pain and memory loss – and the British Legion believes 30,000 may be suffering from the syndrome.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/veterans-debilitating-gulf-war-syndrome-13911872
 
The journalist who wrote the piece is Grace Macaskill who's on twitter


maybe someone could tweet her a link to Nancy Klimas GWI and ME/CFS research and mention that both groups have SW to thank for lack of biomedical research? (by declaring both to be psychosomatic)

Cinders66 said:
Wow, lots of CFS mention in the offspring too. But the Mod REsponse was pretty final. Has the uk ever done more than ask wessely to look into it. Did it ever get biomedical research?
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Wessely called time on research into it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884
 
Sly Saint said:
The journalist who wrote the piece is Grace Macaskill who's on twitter


maybe someone could tweet her a link to Nancy Klimas GWI and ME/CFS research and mention that both groups have SW to thank for lack of biomedical research? (by declaring both to be psychosomatic)


Wessely called time on research into it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884
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I don't think we're ever going to be able to take it any further now," says Professor Simon Wessely.

"Even if you gave me £10m [for research], I wouldn't know what to do with it.

"I think the only thing worth spending money on is trying to help those who are ill”
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Sounds eerily familiar. No you dont know Simon because you’re a psychiatrist and epidemiologist, but an immunologist or other ologist like klimas might. I’m guessIng the help includes some type of CBT because it works so well in CFS.,
 
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884:
"I don't think we're ever going to be able to take it any further now," says Professor Simon Wessely.

"Even if you gave me £10m [for research], I wouldn't know what to do with it.

"I think the only thing worth spending money on is trying to help those who are ill."
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Hopefully that kind of money would be given to people who would actually do something about rather than finding creative ways to blame them for it.

No doubt "trying to help those who are ill" would involve the kind of world-class research you can only get by asking people to hold a shopping bag and talking how they feel about it.

Professor Simon Wessely is director of the King's Centre for Military Health Research in London and an adviser to the Ministry of Defence. He does not believe Gulf War Syndrome exists as a distinct illness.
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Well, OK then, why bother doing any research at all? Just ask Simon. Let's make all medicine "Simon says", he knows it all.
 
Wessely's argument is that it doesn't exist as distinct illness because symptoms from all categories were increased in sufferers.

To him that is sufficient evidence to declare it as problem of abnormal perception of symptoms. I don't believe it has ever been shown that such an illness of abnormal perception actually exists.

The real motive here is probably to save money by labeling it a psychological disorder, as usual.
 
rvallee said:
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884:


Hopefully that kind of money would be given to people who would actually do something about rather than finding creative ways to blame them for it.

No doubt "trying to help those who are ill" would involve the kind of world-class research you can only get by asking people to hold a shopping bag and talking how they feel about it.


Well, OK then, why bother doing any research at all? Just ask Simon. Let's make all medicine "Simon says", he knows it all.
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Ah but Simon makes your problems disappear...
 
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