UK: Sarah Myhill - 2015 Video: Chronic Disease - What's Really Going On

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InitialConditions

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This video is from a few years ago, from the Academy of Nutritional Medicine conference. We have in the first five minutes claims that ME, CFS, and fibromyalgia are 'not diagnoses' and of course the silly, totally unproven, equation ME = CFS + Inflammation.

It should be possible for her opinion on the etiology of these illnesses, and potential treatment pathways, without such gradiose claims. Everything is presented as though she's solved the puzzle. Everything is simplified to analogy and metaphor.

And then, of course, there is the ketogenic diet....

 
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InitialConditions said:
This video is from a few years ago, from the Academy of Nutritional Medicine conference. We have in the first five minutes claims that ME, CFS, and fibromyalgia are 'not diagnoses' and of course the silly, totally unproven, equation ME = CFS + Inflammation.

It should be possible for her opinion on the etiology of these illnesses, and potential treatment pathways, without such gradiose claims. Everything is presented as though she's solved the puzzle. Everything is simplified to analogy and metaphor.

And then, of course, there is the ketogenic diet....

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I think there is a lot wrong with over simplistic thinking like this...it shows how different approaches to proper scientific research and GP practice can be. The GP wants all the answers neatly tied up in some rules that allow them to treat patients ...the absence of these rules then either drives them to make up convoluted new “rules” of their own or more simply, gives them a reason to just ignore patients.

I’m pretty sure I prefer the latter approach...as distasteful as it is. I find the former is just scary experimentation (in the very loosest of terms).

The black and white thinking she conveys has no place in real science.

Most of the content of her web pages (apart from those selling her books etc) are just theoretical musings ...totally unproven and in the most part just plain wrong/misleading/contradictory. I am actually quite thankful she doesn’t still practice in the NHS.
 
I don't know how to say this tastefully (sorry), but I think Dr Myhill peddles pseudoscience. Whether that is her intention or whether she genuinely believes she is helping, I don't know.

But her website is full of unproven and potentially dangerous recommendations, simplistic statements that are pretty outlandish and based on obscure references, and lack of nuance.

I appreciate her advocacy efforts in challenging medical harm of ME patients.

But I do worry about the advice she gives so boldly and confidently, that really isn't that evidence-based (at least, not based on good quality evidence), and that usually recommends purchasing large amounts of expensive supplements.

I realise I might get shot down for criticising her work, but I don't think her approach is scientific.

Reading her coronavirus advice, as someone studying microbiology, makes me cringe.
 
I'm on the Myhill 'followers' facebook group. It makes me audibly ghasp almost daily. I have a collection of screenshots of some of the most absurd posts on there. It's like pseudoscience bingo. Yesterday, in response to the coronavirus post someone linked to a guy claiming to cure it using sound therapy.
 
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Iodine is another tool that has revolutionised my practice! Like Vitamin C it contact-kills all microbes. It is the only agent that is consistently active against gram positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, spores, amoebic cysts, fungi, protozoa, yeasts, drug-resistant bacteria such as MRSA and viruses. In the doses below, it is non-toxic to the immune system cells responsible for healing and repair – indeed studies show it enhances healing. This is why the surgeons love it. Skin painted with iodine before incision does not get infected and heals perfectly. Again, much more detail in my book “The Infection Game -life is an arms race”.

Furthermore, iodine is volatile and so it can get to areas that Vitamin C does not. Even if it cannot be applied directly to the infected area, it will penetrate flesh easily and is carried in the air to be inhaled.

Infection is hit from within by Vitamin C and from without by iodine. I use it in two ways to deal with infection and indeed Lugol’s iodine, salt pipe and coconut oil should be an essential part of your first aid box.
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https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Iodine_-_another_vital_multitasking_tool_that_should_be_a_household_word
 
Oh my goodness. I had not thought that her advice was very dangerous as I hadn’t actually looked very deeply into her writing (I used to have her book but never got through it). But her page on Vitamin C is just unbelievable

shes advocating high forms of vitamin C instead of vaccination for childhood illnesses...

She’s saying when you or your child get an acute fever, you can take 10 grams of Vitamin C ie 10,000mg (max tablet strength in normal supermarkets is like 1000mg a day!). And that you can increase it up to 200g. 200g!! I’m pretty sure this can be very harmful to people and possibly kill some. Doesn’t it affect the kidneys? Have these sorts of doses even been studied conclusively? She’s just putting it out on her website that it’s not toxic. She’s also got lots of theories about why people need to take these amounts. Its really worrying that her word will be taken as true by some people with ME.
 
Michiel Tack said:
Do you happen to have a link for this?

Thanks in advance,
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yes

https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Vit...tool_well_–_the_key_is_getting_the_dose_right

“Vitamin C was the final tool that allowed me to tell my patients that vaccination is redundant since we have a far more effective, and far safer tool in vitamin C. With vitamin C we get the best of both worlds. Children can safely experience viral infections without risking the complications of such, but receive the vital, alive virus immune programming needed to protect against disease later in life, particularly cancer[1]. “
 
InitialConditions said:
I'm on the Myhill 'followers' facebook group. It makes me audibly ghasp almost daily. I have a collection of screenshots of some of the most absurd posts on there. It's like pseudoscience bingo. Yesterday, in response to the coronavirus post someone linked to a guy claiming to cure it using sound therapy.
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I got kicked off that page for calling “bullshit”, as is my way
 
I see on her page the usual droning on about micronutrients and how every patient is unique and similar vague nonsense. Hopefully, this being a scientific page, someone can clarify this for me: if diet and lifestyle are not causal factors in ME, how can “treatment” focussed on them cure it? Secondly, if her “method” works, how can she be sure of it if literally every patient (of the 6000 she’s cured) is “unique”? Has she come up with 6000 ways to cure an illness with only one name? Apologies if this makes no sense, it’s only an irritated rant really.
 
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I see on her page the usual droning on about micronutrients and how every patient is unique and similar vague nonsense. Hopefully, this being a scientific page, someone can clarify this for me: if diet and lifestyle are not causal factors in ME, how can “treatment” focussed on them cure it? Secondly, if her “method” works, how can she be sure of it if literally every patient (of the 6000 she’s cured) is “unique”? Has she come up with 6000 ways to cure an illness with only one name? Apologies if this makes no sense, it’s only an irritated rant really.
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The answer is that she's a quack.
 
TheBassist said:
I see on her page the usual droning on about micronutrients and how every patient is unique and similar vague nonsense. Hopefully, this being a scientific page, someone can clarify this for me: if diet and lifestyle are not causal factors in ME, how can “treatment” focussed on them cure it? Secondly, if her “method” works, how can she be sure of it if literally every patient (of the 6000 she’s cured) is “unique”? Has she come up with 6000 ways to cure an illness with only one name?
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If you want to really hammer yourself over the head with the car analogy give this a listen. I live Gary’s podcast btw, just this not this one
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-me-show/id1374903449?i=1000431004411
 
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