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I wonder who raised the formal complaint with Tovey, as editor in chief, that he felt had to be listened to. ETA: and what were the specific questions posed that the editors judged were so important? See Reuters link. ETA: “In an emailed response to questions from Reuters, Tovey said: “We...

Thanks @Simon M, and for the clarity of your writing which makes a big difference for a non scientist.

I really didn’t get “looking over his shoulder” for the last 5 years. Who was he looking for or at? The BPS lot. That explains why the CMRC has achieved nothing.

@chrisb Nor do I. I just have a very uncomfortable feeling. I have admired the Countess of Mar for several years but it doesn’t feel quite the same and not in a good way. Perhaps better expressed below. I agree with the above.

Exactly. You are quick off the mark @Andy. I have been checking for these regularly. I don’t understand why it took so long to produce them. I also notice that there were a lot of ‘apologies’. I wonder how much notice was given. The date of the previous meeting was also inaccurate. It was 1st...

@Cinders66 His job was advertised as a 12 month short term appointment. It sounded very BPS focused. I don’t know who was appointed.

Dr Bansal retired from NHS practice at the end of Aug, and is currently away from work sick. He is intending to return and continue seeing private patients, and do research. He is very understanding and empathetic. I had NHS B12 injections prescribed by him in about 2010 but felt no benefit...

@dave30th Thanks for your reply. Yes that newsletter #3 is bizarre and inappropriate. I had not seen it before but looked it up today. Quite honestly I was shocked when I read Downing Street. Could not quite believe it ....but I suppose nothing is unbelievable with this lot. The research...

https://www.s4me.info/attachments/participantsnewsletter3-pdf.4295/ Participants’ newsletter 3 posted by @Sarah has 6 pages, and page 3 seems to be identical to the newsletter earlier on this thread. 10 Downing Street is there.

Thanks @Trish. I jumped to page 251 and found the detail about the newsletters. Issue 3 ( Dec 2008) which is the one posted earlier in the thread was quoted. There were quotes from a doctor and 6 participants which match our copy but no reference to the 10 Downing Street comment. Odd??

Thanks @Dave 30th. I understand absolutely that the Pace trial findings are completely invalid. The intricacies of this are fascinating. Downing Street- I never thought it went as far as that. Totally shocking. Just don’t know what it means. Who authorised it? Could I ask you to clarify my...

@Esther12 @Sasha Thanks. Need to check out the links. @Sasha Can you give me a link to DTuller and Wiltshire’s comments. For myself have never read of 10 Downing Street as far as I remember. I am just so suspicious of Wesley’s influence but not wise to overegg it.

@rvallee That newsletter could be dynamite. Is there any way you could help us identify who/ where/ when it was sent? The veracity needs to be solid. Unless absolutely true, and able to be shown to true, using it could rebound on the community and confirm the negative perceptions of us...

Unbelievable that this should have been sent out. Truly stunned. Was the comment from Downing Street authorised. Who by? I haven’t tried to look up the link at the bottom. Anyone know if this sort of accolade is usual?

@Sasha. Thanks for finding Saturday’s agenda. It was beyond me last night.

This is an 8 hour livestream of Saturday’s symposium at Stanford. The plan is for the separate lectures to be divided and put on the OMF website ASAP but this is available in the meantime. Somewhere earlier in this thread was the day’s schedule-order of speakers. Sorry, I don’t have the energy...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10721121 I note it’s from scientists in the biochemistry department at Oxford. We had scientists in the UK. What happened? ETA: somehow the post did not transfer fully. Please see @Trish For abstract in short sections. #27

Am not a scientist but feel that Dr Davis and collaborators seem to have assembled what looks like a very impressive team.

https://www.omf.ngo/collaborative-research-center-harvard/ Just had a google and names came up for both Nottingham and Birmingham researchers. See link above. Eta: bios of all the researchers provided. UK ones near the end of the list.

I wrote myself a little note from one of the speakers when watching the Stanford symposium lectures yesterday that ‘infection may bring about a cure’.!!!