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Come on down, Lord Winston.

Over to you, Sir Simon... . . . . . . . . . . . *crickets*

Bastard bolshie patients. :p And sometimes literal physical self-preservation.

One could be excused for thinking that nothing fundamental has changed in the UK, and being more than a little annoyed and disheartened by it. :grumpy:

MEsplaining: when an 'expert explains' ME, and how to live with it, to somebody already living with it.

@rvallee

Desperation.

That paper is irrefutable proof that they were way ahead of the evidence from the start. And PACE is irrefutable proof that were never had any intention of paying attention to the evidence.

I think you misspelled 'decade'. :D ;) More seriously, have you considered pulling together all your work on this into a book, summarising the whole show into a more readable narrative for the average person not informed of the story, including a bit of the history, and its broader impacts...

Games with words. Sophistry. They are so good at it that they fooled themselves.

Suggested by who, is the first question to ask here. If one were to ask what is the most likely outcome of mistreating a group of people in the way we have been mistreated, and for 3 decades, it would be exactly the situation we have before us today.

Newer version available: https://f1000research.com/articles/7-1325/v2

Either physically attend, with sufficient cognitive function to engage productively. Or sufficient cognitive function to engage productively while working from home. Definitely this. My capacity to learn and remember fell dramatically when I got sick.

Big thanks to those who helped the MPs and their staff come up to speed on this very technically and politically difficult area.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Well, colour me purple.

Depends where you sit in the power tree. We are down near the bottom, without the luxury of protection by powerful patrons, so our scientific case has to be rock solid. It is an extremely serious allegation-by-association against our reputations.

What Robert 1973 and Trish said pretty much covers my view, plus a few points from others. In particular: At this point in time the video remains untested evidence. We don't know its provenance and context. Were all reasonable steps (including forensics) taken to identify the source of the...

And PACE was supposed to be the great test of those previous and lower powered studies.

Well I wonder whose fault that is?