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I think that is what is known as a confluence of mutually beneficial interests. The psychs want power and prestige, and the pollies and bean counters want plausible deniability.

I think the goings on in the extra-cellular matrix will tell us a lot, possibly including mechanically too.

And Jane Colby. :thumbup:

As always, I endorse this Tom. :thumbup:

There it is. Exposed for all to see on the formal government record. And I thought it was medically unexplained symptoms (plural)?

That is one of the main defining features and tactics of a cult.

I used to think editors and critics were failed practitioners. But as I got older and more exposed to the wider world, I realised the good ones really do help understand and advance things. The key word here being 'good'. Lots of crap ones around. Permission denied. Stay on board, sailor. :thumbup:

Should say that despite leading an active life pre-ME, I was always one of those who needs their sleep. I never did well without a good 8 hours every night even at my physical peak. Two late nights in a row and I felt it.

What we need is a means to do that test in vitro, with a tissue sample. So the whole organism doesn't have to go through the trauma.

Sharpe and his backers are (apparently) clinical trial experts, yet still fucked PACE right up. Tuller, and hundreds of patient 'activists', have run zero clinical trials, yet still got it right about PACE. Sharpe's argument is not one I would be making if I was him. Especially to...

I think this is correct.

Feature, not a bug. The cruel and arbitrary nature of it is a deliberate signal to the rest of society that this could happen to them if they don't submit. Exactly the same is happening here in Australia. Government by extortion and intimidation and neglect. All in our best interests, of course.

I was fit and active, played social squash and volleyball 3-4 times a week (had access to free courts). My main transport was a pushbike, 5-10km rides were common and no problem at all. Where I live has a very good bike path network, and I used to do a long ride most weekends just for pleasure...

This. In covering your arse, perhaps. But otherwise, fuck off with your hippie new-age bullshit. :grumpy:

What they said. Not heard that one before. Pretty good. (Though I have never been a fan of the 'malaise' word. Really doesn't have the punch needed.)

I suspect that under it all, besides the usual egos and careers and incomes, etc, this is the big driver in the establishment resistance to dealing with PACE and similar nonsense. So much of government and private insurance industry policy rests on these claims being true. They are too...

It really is astounding that for decades virtually every institution and process of governance in the UK with any significant responsibility for this issue has persistently and seriously failed, and behaved in such an appallingly incompetent and callous manner. That cannot be pure coincidence...

Yes, that chapter of the story has been particularly disappointing. :(

Straight propaganda technique. What is disturbing about it is not that it gets used, but that it is so successful for so long. :grumpy: