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  1. Hutan

    “Unstoppable” documentary

    That's a worry. Can anyone contact the MEA, @Russell Fleming? It seems that whoever is making editorial decisions there is not very aware of, well, much, about ME/CFS and the potential for uninformed people to take advantage of people newly diagnosed with ME/CFS. I mean, it's not just that...
  2. Hutan

    Tonsils, Appendixes, Gall Bladders and ME/CFS

    I've heard much odder ideas about the cause of ME/CFS. It's interesting to think about. I assume tonsils are primarily there for immune function. But, I've googled and I've seen some of that research you mention that suggests that appendices might also affect immune responses. There's this...
  3. Hutan

    Effect of herbal cake-separated moxibustion on behavioral stress reactions and blood lactic acid level and muscular AMPK/PGC-1α signaling.. 2022 Xu

    Canada: Edmonton Long covid clinic - Park Integrative Health, Neeja Bakshi Here, an example from today of a medical doctor who is specialising in treating Long Covid and uses acupuncture as a treatment. Decent trials could be done on humans, to stop people wasting money and effort on useless...
  4. Hutan

    Canada: Edmonton Long covid clinic - Park Integrative Health, Neeja Bakshi

    From the twitter thread, Dr Bakshi has Long Covid herself. She knows what PEM is She is obviously sympathetic and goes into bat with insurance companies for her patients: But I find the list of treatments rather sad - rehabilitation, LDN? acupuncture? Where's the evidence? It feels as...
  5. Hutan

    Canada: Edmonton Long covid clinic - Park Integrative Health, Neeja Bakshi

    An article about the clinic, Park Integrative Health Specialized clinics to treat long COVID are in demand and physicians say they can't keep up Jun 2022
  6. Hutan

    Effect of herbal cake-separated moxibustion on behavioral stress reactions and blood lactic acid level and muscular AMPK/PGC-1α signaling.. 2022 Xu

    Yeah, I laughed out loud when I got to the last bit of the title. And then felt sad for the rats. I had to google to get the reference - for the benefit of others not very familiar with UK history, it's about burning cakes As ridiculous as this research is, we are still seeing otherwise...
  7. Hutan

    Published poems by Veronica Ashenhurst, who has Severe ME

    A very warm welcome to the forum @Veronica.
  8. Hutan

    Published poems by Veronica Ashenhurst, who has Severe ME

    Achingly sad poems. Veronica might be physically limited but her poems soar out across the world. I spent some time thinking about the use of amber in that last poem, 'in the amber country of my ancestors' - it sounds so warm and nostalgic. But, when I found out a bit more about Ukrainian...
  9. Hutan

    Norway: Article about ME seminar with security

    If we are talking about about the same letter, my memory of this is that actually a journalist made a letter with pasted cutout letters, mashing together some of the things that Wessely claimed, to use as an illustration in an article about the awful ME activists and the saintly researchers who...
  10. Hutan

    Dysregulated autoantibodies targeting vaso- and immunoregulatory receptors in Post COVID Syndrome correlate with symptom severity 2022 Scheibenbogen

    The structure of the study is good, with the ME/CFS subset and the healthy post-Covid-19 controls. It's notable that lower levels of autoantibodies were found in the Long Covid people, compared to the other groups. I haven't looked at the paper yet, but the results (e.g. "compared to at least...
  11. Hutan

    Norway: Article about ME seminar with security

    I don't recall the details well, but I'm pretty sure that the mug was not thrown at anyone, researcher or otherwise. I vaguely recall that the mug was assisted to fall to the floor as the person was leaving. My memory of the account is that, as an act of physical violence, it was of the...
  12. Hutan

    Applying latent class cluster analysis & data mining methods to identify classes of CFS patients...predictive of treatment success, 2022, Clapperton

    Yes, this is the epitome of re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The ship still sinks even when people are seated in groups according to how much they worry about icebergs. I'm actually a bit surprised that Clapperton did not find anything. I mean, for one thing there must have been a big...
  13. Hutan

    Unravelling the nature of postexertional malaise in ME/CFS: the role of elastase, complement C4a and interleukin-1β 2010, Nijs et al

    Getting to the molecule that was proclaimed as a biomarker in the abstract: Complement C4a level First activity challenge Baseline: ME/CFS 1790.4 ± 424.3 Controls 1901.8 ± 398.4 1 hour Post-exercise: ME/CFS 1645.9 ± 503.6 Controls 1654.5 ± 399.9 Because the drop in C4a coincided...
  14. Hutan

    Unravelling the nature of postexertional malaise in ME/CFS: the role of elastase, complement C4a and interleukin-1β 2010, Nijs et al

    IL-1β They didn't find any detectable IL-1B before or after either bouts of exercise in the ME/CFS group of the controls. This was in line with the study that was Reference 10 - and that study made measurements at more time points than just 1 hour after exercise. This is quite funny, as the...
  15. Hutan

    Unravelling the nature of postexertional malaise in ME/CFS: the role of elastase, complement C4a and interleukin-1β 2010, Nijs et al

    First I note the very short duration of the exercise. 4 minutes or so of cycling. I think that the impact of this exercise challenge could get lost in the noise of the other activity of the person's day including the effort of getting to the test facility. Check out the differences in RER...
  16. Hutan

    Unravelling the nature of postexertional malaise in ME/CFS: the role of elastase, complement C4a and interleukin-1β 2010, Nijs et al

    That's quite a big and consequential statement, but it's oddly downplayed in the conclusions where the researchers just call for more study of immune alterations. So, what did they actually find? Well, I haven't got to what they found yet, but I just have to divert briefly to note this...
  17. Hutan

    Unravelling the nature of postexertional malaise in ME/CFS: the role of elastase, complement C4a and interleukin-1β 2010, Nijs et al

    First sentence of the paper. The researchers don't see PEM as a mandatory diagnostic criteria for ME/CFS. Also the framing of "bad" exercise or activity is that it is "too vigorous". Actually, we don't know if a short burst of vigorous activity is worse or better than a longer period of...
  18. Hutan

    Do trait-level emotion regulation strategies moderate associations between retrospective reports of childhood trauma and... 2022 Jones et al

    Gosh, the researchers must have been relieved - with a p of 0.049 that finding came perilously close to being statistically insignificant. But, with adiposity, smoking and poor sleep partially explaining 'prospective CRP increases', maybe if you took those things out of the equation, there'd be...
  19. Hutan

    Risk factors for suicidal ideation in a chronic illness 2022 Elliott and Jason

    Not to diminish the awfulness of chronic illness and the losses, and the additional impact of being disbelieved and stigmatised, but I do think that the handing out of anti-depressants with little followup or monitoring for side effects or information about the problems that come with ceasing...
  20. Hutan

    Germany: IQWIG Report to government on ME/CFS - report out now May 2023

    PACE was about people with long lasting fatigue. I don't think that alone automatically makes the evidence it produces worthless. PACE showed that CBT and GET can't be expected to help people with long-lasting fatigue. It's the same as having a trial on pain relief and including people with a...
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