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  1. Hutan

    Gene Expression Subtypes in Patients with CFS/ME, 2008, Kerr, Holgate et al

    An old paper (2008) on differential gene expression that I came across while looking for something else. Does anyone know if the techniques used and results are still considered robust and if the work was replicated? There are some commonalities in the genes for which there are gene expression...
  2. Hutan

    Gene Expression Subtypes in Patients with CFS/ME, 2008, Kerr, Holgate et al

    Chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis (CFS/ME) is a multisystem disease, the pathogenesis of which remains undetermined. We set out to determine the precise abnormalities of gene expression in the blood of patients with CFS/ME. We analyzed gene expression in peripheral blood from 25...
  3. Hutan

    Pre-Illness Data reveals Differences in Multiple Metabolites and Metabolic Pathways in Those Who Do and Do Not Recover from IM, 2022, Jason et al

    Yes, I was thinking that it would be very good to look at the study protocol. If they always planned to analyse the data in this way, then, even though the approach is a bit odd, I'd feel a lot happier that the reported results are solid. It would be great if an author of the paper could...
  4. Hutan

    Pre-Illness Data reveals Differences in Multiple Metabolites and Metabolic Pathways in Those Who Do and Do Not Recover from IM, 2022, Jason et al

    Yes. 4501 - the prospectively recruited students 238 - the students who got IM during the study period 6 months after infection: 55 - students who met the requirements of at least one ME/CFS diagnostic criteria >> 20 - students who met the requirements of more than one diagnostic criteria...
  5. Hutan

    Unexplained post-acute infection syndromes, 2021, Choutka, Iwasaki, Hornig et al

    I like that the title of this paper includes the word 'Unexplained' - it feels like standing up to the proponents of MUS and saying 'yes, these post-acute infections syndromes are unexplained, and yes, they do represent a significant health care burden. So, how about we start doing some...
  6. Hutan

    Is Long Covid a type of ME/CFS?

    Unexplained post-acute infection syndromes, 2021, Iwasaki et al This paper is useful when explaining why we should not be surprised that Covid-19 can trigger lasting symptoms that look like ME/CFS and like many other post-acute infection syndromes.
  7. Hutan

    Is Long Covid a type of ME/CFS?

    Here's the best answer I have found to my question: Preprint: Chronic COVID-19 Syndrome and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) following the first pandemic wave in Germany.., Kedor et al, 2021 This is a small study and the definition of PEM is not clear, but it found that 41 out of 42...
  8. Hutan

    A Paradigm for Post-Covid-19 Fatigue Syndrome Analogous to ME/CFS, 2021, Mackay

    Yes, I think Angus is wrong in his BPS-like hypothesis. However, he gives the best summary I have found yet of the evidence for much of Long Covid being ME/CFS. That, I think, has been obvious for a good while, but few papers actually come out and say it. Here's some of the supporting argument:
  9. Hutan

    Is Long Covid a type of ME/CFS?

    Are there any studies yet to support a statement that Covid-19 can trigger the onset of ME/CFS?
  10. Hutan

    New Zealand: HealthInfo ME/CFS pages - feedback please before 25 May 2022

    :) Thanks for those detailed and helpful comments Sarah. Yes, I've tried to find research specifically about salt in ME/CFS. I don't think there's really much solid evidence for it helping in ME/CFS, although some indication it is useful in POTS. I agree that the benefit of including the...
  11. Hutan

    New Zealand: HealthInfo ME/CFS pages - feedback please before 25 May 2022

    HW, do you know of any trial evidence supporting the idea that people with ME/CFS are sensitive to medication at higher rates than other people? I'm not disputing that many people with ME/CFS have found that they are sensitive to medication of course. I myself did not do well on ciprofloxacin...
  12. Hutan

    Pre-Illness Data reveals Differences in Multiple Metabolites and Metabolic Pathways in Those Who Do and Do Not Recover from IM, 2022, Jason et al

    Re spermine and spermidine: This study found that the ME/CFS group had lower spermine, but higher spermidine. It's a very interesting finding. Searching the forum, the only mention of spermine and spermidine is a paper about treatment of Covid-19. The two molecules seem to have a role in...
  13. Hutan

    Pre-Illness Data reveals Differences in Multiple Metabolites and Metabolic Pathways in Those Who Do and Do Not Recover from IM, 2022, Jason et al

    It will be interesting to see if DecodeME finds any genetic issues relating to these metabolites and pathways.
  14. Hutan

    Pre-Illness Data reveals Differences in Multiple Metabolites and Metabolic Pathways in Those Who Do and Do Not Recover from IM, 2022, Jason et al

    It's open access if you sign up. I think the settings on my computer prevented me from accessing the study via Voner's link. Gender skew - not as substantial as is often quoted. Edit - it isn't clear to me from the paper if the 18 subjects with 'severe ME/CFS' are all of the people who...
  15. Hutan

    Molecular Mechanisms of Neuroinflammation in ME/CFS and Long COVID to Sustain Disease and Promote Relapses, 2022, Tate et al.

    No, I haven't. I just picked out a few mostly minor issues, because it was easy to illustrate the problems with them. But I agree with those two big issues you identified - the idea of brain inflammation, specifically in the paraventricular nucleus, and HPA axis dysfunction - as lacking...
  16. Hutan

    Molecular Mechanisms of Neuroinflammation in ME/CFS and Long COVID to Sustain Disease and Promote Relapses, 2022, Tate et al.

    It appears that Warren Tate is primarily responsible for this paper, building on the work he did with Angus Mackay. I've no doubt that Warren is a brilliant biochemist and certainly motivated to help people with ME/CFS, but, in my view, this hypothesis paper would have benefited from much more...
  17. Hutan

    Molecular Mechanisms of Neuroinflammation in ME/CFS and Long COVID to Sustain Disease and Promote Relapses, 2022, Tate et al.

    Here's another example - this statement is used to support the idea that the gastrointestinal system may be contributing to the neuroinflammation. The reference given is: Wang J, Song Y, Chen Z, Leng SX. 2018 Connection between systemic inflammation and neuroinflammation underlies...
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