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Hrm, no, I'd argue that it was he who failed in a most spectacular fashion right there. In public. On record. So, well done Trish!! :emoji_champagne_glass:

Imagining nearly complete: in the US all postal mail is optically scanned now. I mean you can write a vague From: name, but it still records the whos, whens and wheres.

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"Are you assuming something went wrong?" Seriously, the trial is being taught at Berkeley as the way NOT to do a study. There have been lengthy dissections of the many flaws and improprieties of PACE by fellow scientists, but these are "assumptions"? This guy is the king of gaslighting. Too bad...

Go Sally!

I don't mean to derail the thread, but at some point certain key crops, including wheat, cane sugar, and corn began being dessicated for "easier" harvest by being drenched in glyphosate. So the plant itself was now being killed by the application of massive amounts of toxic product before...

I don't think it's fair to blame the man for the shitty comments by bigots that are always under any article about this disease. I don't know that it's sensible either to dissect every person who is brave enough to go public with their illness, and expect or wish them to be someone other than...

I'm fairly well convinced the millions of pounds of glyphosate/industrial chemicals has caused the intestinal permeability, and the rest is then subgroups of who makes antibodies to what. But say buh-bye to your scientific career if you try studying that though.

Interesting that it's presumed non-communicable in such a nonchalant way, considering family prevalence and outbreak history. Correcting the misinfo on ME feels like having to correct the entire OED sometimes :banghead: ETA:Interesting to note that bit has been removed at the link now

Wow, these are fantastic, @Gary Burgess, you are so good at this! Excellent guests, skilled interviewer, clear and simple format--just grand! Thank you so much :emoji_headphones::emoji_trophy:

@Mike Harley every time I revisit this thread I get teary-eyed. It's incredible what you're doing, and your epic dedication and perseverance are so touching. :heart: Heartfelt gratitude for all you're doing. :heart:

I think in Justina's case it was bc her family leaned in those directions. But yes, it seems libertarian/far right people are bizarrely more motivated about interrupting state abuse of power than so-called progressives, it's confounding. It's a shame when civil and human rights fall victim to...

@Sid I do appreciate your point, that some people need meds and psych help. I think everyone here agrees with that. However when you make statements like this ...have you considered if this is really true, or simply a point of view you have adopted? I understand it is a strong point of view...

Feel free, @alex3619 , to elaborate, as this issue is crucial to all people, in an ever more urgent way.

I'm not sure how you got to this from the article. He's talking about how the system has been gamed via psychiatry. Most people in the "anti psychiatry" movement are against the systematic use of force and withdrawal of agency. Nowhere do they say don't take your meds, don't get help.

The author, as I read it, is talking about the system, not the category. If you read the article he is explaining about the use of force and control by psychiatry as a means for social control. It is a serious issue, on the rise now with MUPS etc, and we don't have to drink the bathwater to...

http://psychiatrized.org/donweitz/PsychiatryAsSocialControl.pdf

https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/05/researchers-question-gold-standard-status-cognitive-behavioral-therapy/

Have you tried separate cushions for each arm? I cant use my computer at all unless I have a pillow under each arm.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2018/05/un-meeting-on-human-rights-in-mental-health/