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A Future Without ME/CFS: True causes and effective treatment strategies. Seminar with Dr Dietrich Klinghardt plus guest speakers. 15th Feb 2020

Discussion in 'Other treatments' started by Andy, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Not a recommendation.
    https://klinghardtinstitute.com/product/dr-klinghardt-a-future-without-me/
     
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  2. Trish

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    Very alt med. Everything is toxins, electromagnetic radiation and retroviruses and you can only get the secrets of his treatments by paying to go to his seminars.
     
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  3. Dx Revision Watch

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    Indeed.

    I find myself humming "....most efficacious in every case..."

    I do hope a roll of Bacofoil isn't obligatory as I used the last of the roll on Sunday's chicken.
     
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    Dx Revision Watch Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    At least what remains of the chicken is currently protected from 5G.
     
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  5. Mij

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    "Dr Klinghardt is renowned as a ‘’Physician of last resort’’ with extraordinary and effective remedies to the most intractable conditions". :nailbiting:

    He was/is advising drinking bleach at one time.
     
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    Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right, here I am,
    Stuck in the middle with you
     
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    The HTML address reads "dr-klinghardt-a-future-without-me" which—though less preferable to a future free of M.E.—might actually be a step forward.
     
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  9. Snowdrop

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    PS

    Dear conference goers --please bring money.

    (probably left out the above by accident)
    I had that exact song lyric response. :laugh:
     
  10. Sean

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    And how do we know this?
     
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  11. Milo

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    Look at you all fine S4ME folks, you can smell BS from far, far away! :thumbup:
     
  12. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, we can smell bleach breath from afar from the doctor of "last resort" who won't admit that he just doesn't know what's wrong with you.
     
  13. NelliePledge

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    Anybody who bangs on about “true” causes is just resorting to a faith based approach.
     
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  14. Andy

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    Merged thread

    For what it is worth:

    https://klinghardtinstitute.com/teachings/slides-from-me-cfs-event-15th-feb-2020

    Slides from ME/CFS event 15th Feb 2020
    Events, Teachings
    Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: What is ME? What are the leading theories? Diagnostic tools – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Dietrich-Klinghardt-MD-PhD.pdf

    Dr. Richard Straube: Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME): Background and treatment results based on our study results – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-med.-Richard-Straube.pdf

    Dr. Patrick Assheuer MD: Introduction to immunodiagnostics and silent inflammation in ME/CFS – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Patrick-Assheuer-MD.pdf

    Dr. Armin Schwarzbach: Laboratory diagnosis of pathogens involved in ME – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Armin-Schwarzback-MD-PhD.pdf

    Dr. Sarah Myhill: Mitochondria in ME – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Sarah-Myhill-MD-BS.pdf
     
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  16. Hoopoe

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    Isn't it amazing how they are able to figure all this out? :rolleyes:

    But somehow we can't find these microbes.
     
  17. Trish

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    I had a quick look at the slides from Klinghart's talk. Loads of different bits of research from all over the place, then a protocol based on nutritional supplements, herbs, homeopathy and removing mercury fillings etc etc.
     
  18. Andy

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    I did look at Myhill's slides, she is still pushing her mito test.
     
  19. Snowdrop

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    The layout of slides and info looks impressive to me. As if time was taken and it also seems somewhat comprehensive (or as Trish called it--all over the place).

    I'm not sure I have a problem with that per se as I don't know how to evaluate any of the information presented. But I can see how people might be drawn into it uncritically by how it's presented.

    The only beef I have is that they are pushing a treatment that only few can access. I consider this morally wrong for an illness with the life consequences as ME has. We need free access to treatment that is safe and known to be effective.

    And in the end this is not a cure but an improving QoL. Which is all fine and well except for the above caveat.

    We are all impatient. It has already taken far too long to sort this. But marketing a protocol like this is not the solution.
     
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  20. Invisible Woman

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    And

    So, leading theory from over 20 years ago. This stuff was being peddled when I first got sick.
     

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