A Future Without ME/CFS: True causes and effective treatment strategies. Seminar with Dr Dietrich Klinghardt plus guest speakers. 15th Feb 2020

[Andy]

Not a recommendation.

Over 250,000 people in the UK suffer from a condition termed ME/CFS without any further suggestion of its etiology. Despite the fact that even the CDC now acknowledges underlying pathogens such as Borrelia, Mycoplasma and other bacterial infections as well as herpes viruses, entero- and retroviruses, real solutions are barely ever offered.

This is clearly a very complex disease with multiple drivers. Numerous environmental toxins combine to create the perfect storm. EMFs are known to open up membrane-based voltage-gated calcium channels and scramble cellular functions, contributing to ES/MCS and MCAS.

How 5G will affect us within this constellation is entirely predictable, but is anyone listening? Pesticides and other chemicals are impacting us at unprecedented levels, as are heavy metals, often from unsuspected sources. These factors can all be at least partially shielded/avoided if we become aware of them and understand how.

At this conference Dr Dietrich Klinghardt, along with several highly distinguished international experts, will elucidate the environmental and infectious factors that so often fuel this mysterious disease. Dr Klinghardt is renowned as a ‘’Physician of last resort’’ with extraordinary and effective remedies to the most intractable conditions. He will present protocols for overcoming this dreadful and manifestly biomedical condition, offering hope to sufferers and their carers who have often been neglected and despondent for years and even decades.

https://klinghardtinstitute.com/product/dr-klinghardt-a-future-without-me/

 

[Trish]

Very alt med. Everything is toxins, electromagnetic radiation and retroviruses and you can only get the secrets of his treatments by paying to go to his seminars.

 

[Dx Revision Watch]

Dr Klinghardt is renowned as a ‘’Physician of last resort’’ with extraordinary and effective remedies to the most intractable conditions.

Indeed.

I find myself humming "....most efficacious in every case..."

I do hope a roll of Bacofoil isn't obligatory as I used the last of the roll on Sunday's chicken.

 

[Dx Revision Watch]

Indeed.

I find myself humming "....most efficacious in every case..."

I do hope a roll of Bacofoil isn't obligatory as I used the last of the roll on Sunday's chicken.

At least what remains of the chicken is currently protected from 5G.

 

[Mij]

"Dr Klinghardt is renowned as a ‘’Physician of last resort’’ with extraordinary and effective remedies to the most intractable conditions".

He was/is advising drinking bleach at one time.

 

[rvallee]

Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you

 

[InitialConditions]

The HTML address reads "dr-klinghardt-a-future-without-me" which—though less preferable to a future free of M.E.—might actually be a step forward.

 

[InitialConditions]

Christ, he's even got chemtrail stuff on his site. https://klinghardtinstitute.com/environment/shock-claims-about-chemtrails/

 

[Snowdrop]

PS

Dear conference goers --please bring money.

(probably left out the above by accident)

Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you

I had that exact song lyric response.

 

[Sean]

This is clearly a very complex disease with multiple drivers.

And how do we know this?

 

[Milo]

Look at you all fine S4ME folks, you can smell BS from far, far away!

 

[Mij]

Yes, we can smell bleach breath from afar from the doctor of "last resort" who won't admit that he just doesn't know what's wrong with you.

 

[NelliePledge]

Anybody who bangs on about “true” causes is just resorting to a faith based approach.

 

[Andy]

Slides from this event are now available from Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, Dr. Richard Straube, Dr. Patrick Assheuer, Dr. Armin Schwarzbach and Dr. Sarah Myhill...
https://klinghardtinstitute.com/teachings/slides-from-me-cfs-event-15th-feb-2020/

I've not looked at them, so can't tell you what is in them.

 

[Dolphin]

Merged thread

For what it is worth:

https://klinghardtinstitute.com/teachings/slides-from-me-cfs-event-15th-feb-2020

Slides from ME/CFS event 15th Feb 2020
Events, Teachings
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: What is ME? What are the leading theories? Diagnostic tools – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Dietrich-Klinghardt-MD-PhD.pdf

Dr. Richard Straube: Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME): Background and treatment results based on our study results – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-med.-Richard-Straube.pdf

Dr. Patrick Assheuer MD: Introduction to immunodiagnostics and silent inflammation in ME/CFS – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Patrick-Assheuer-MD.pdf

Dr. Armin Schwarzbach: Laboratory diagnosis of pathogens involved in ME – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Armin-Schwarzback-MD-PhD.pdf

Dr. Sarah Myhill: Mitochondria in ME – View PDF https://klinghardtinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Dr.-Sarah-Myhill-MD-BS.pdf

 

[Hoopoe]

Isn't it amazing how they are able to figure all this out?

ME patients have decreased blood flow to most body tissues –and decreased oxygen delivery. The intima of the capillaries is covered with a fibrin coat, sometimes also with biofilm (mucopolysaccasrides). A study from Israel discovered, that it takes a red cell to deliver oxygen to the surrounding tissues 0.2 seconds. In capillaries with the fibrin lining it takes 6.4 minutes. The lining is laid down by a host of known and published microbes; Rickettsia, Babesia, Mycoplasma, Bartonella, Borrelia and many others.

But somehow we can't find these microbes.

 

[Trish]

I had a quick look at the slides from Klinghart's talk. Loads of different bits of research from all over the place, then a protocol based on nutritional supplements, herbs, homeopathy and removing mercury fillings etc etc.

 

[Andy]

I did look at Myhill's slides, she is still pushing her mito test.

 

[Snowdrop]

The layout of slides and info looks impressive to me. As if time was taken and it also seems somewhat comprehensive (or as Trish called it--all over the place).

I'm not sure I have a problem with that per se as I don't know how to evaluate any of the information presented. But I can see how people might be drawn into it uncritically by how it's presented.

The only beef I have is that they are pushing a treatment that only few can access. I consider this morally wrong for an illness with the life consequences as ME has. We need free access to treatment that is safe and known to be effective.

And in the end this is not a cure but an improving QoL. Which is all fine and well except for the above caveat.

We are all impatient. It has already taken far too long to sort this. But marketing a protocol like this is not the solution.

 

[Invisible Woman]

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: What is ME? What are the leading theories?

And

I had a quick look at the slides from Klinghart's talk. Loads of different bits of research from all over the place, then a protocol based on nutritional supplements, herbs, homeopathy and removing mercury fillings etc etc.

So, leading theory from over 20 years ago. This stuff was being peddled when I first got sick.