Article: What happens when you don’t recover from Epstein-Barr virus?

[Wyva]

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-happens-when-you-dont-recover-epstein-barr-virus

The author says she had ME/CFS after EBV.

(About the author:
Priya Joi is a British-Indian science writer based in Barcelona. She was previously a staff writer and editor at the World Health Organization, The Lancet, and New Scientist magazine. She has a degree in genetics.)

Some excerpts:

Suggesting that psychological interventions could help people with CFS/ME recover is not to suggest there wasn’t also a biological cause.
(...)

However, it has been suggested that there is a psychological connection with symptoms in some people with CFS/ME. Doctors like Simon Wessely, professor at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, UK, who have spoken about this, have been vilified and even sent death threats as some vocal patient-support organisations and doctors deny any psychological link.

(...)

Peter White published another paper with Michael Sharpe, psychiatrist and well-known CFS expert at the University of Oxford, showing increasing evidence that cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) can resolve symptoms in some people too.

This is not to say that everyone with CFS/ME will see their symptoms ease with the same methods, but that there is evidence that for some people, psychological interventions work.​

And you can of course also read about Paul Garner and his recovery too...

 

[RedFox]

It's utterly disgusting that an organization that supports vaccines refuses to take post-infectious disease seriously.

 

[Amw66]

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-happens-when-you-dont-recover-epstein-barr-virus

The author says she had ME/CFS after EBV.

(About the author:
Priya Joi is a British-Indian science writer based in Barcelona. She was previously a staff writer and editor at the World Health Organization, The Lancet, and New Scientist magazine. She has a degree in genetics.)

Some excerpts:

Suggesting that psychological interventions could help people with CFS/ME recover is not to suggest there wasn’t also a biological cause.
(...)

However, it has been suggested that there is a psychological connection with symptoms in some people with CFS/ME. Doctors like Simon Wessely, professor at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, UK, who have spoken about this, have been vilified and even sent death threats as some vocal patient-support organisations and doctors deny any psychological link.

(...)

Peter White published another paper with Michael Sharpe, psychiatrist and well-known CFS expert at the University of Oxford, showing increasing evidence that cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) can resolve symptoms in some people too.

This is not to say that everyone with CFS/ME will see their symptoms ease with the same methods, but that there is evidence that for some people, psychological interventions work.​

And you can of course also read about Paul Garner and his recovery too...

Treatment for medical PTSD ?

 

[Kitty]

She has a degree in genetics

So she knows how to apply rigour, she just decided not to bother with it here by looking at the "evidence" her conclusions rely on.

 

[Trish]

Yet again we see someone pretending to be taking a serious scientific approach to ME/CFS falling into the trap of prioritising personal interpretation of their own experience over all the research that shows no objective benefits from psych approaches to treating it. Alongside rolling out all the old unevidenced justifications.
Giving Garner the last word says it all really.

 

[Charles B.]

Anecdata, recycled militant activist tropes, no discussion of how this research has been discredited. reprogramming the mind, and Garner. Really tough to cram all this in one article, but they did it.

 

[SNT Gatchaman]

[Paul Garner] said: "Your body has an autonomic nervous system that is a very basic system to protect you from harm. It's the system that means you automatically pull your hand away if you touch something hot after you feel pain. And I honestly think that a lot of the chronic fatigue and ME in post-viral syndromes is to do with these systems becoming disordered.

He has some very muddled ideas. There are indeed autonomic reflexes - this isn't one of them. Perhaps review the concept of the somatic reflex arc?

Arguably, as Garner says, a "more rational, clear-headed discussion that takes into account people's lived experiences is what we need more of."

<Waves in S4ME> "Well hello there!"

 

[rvallee]

So, some kind of "global alliance for vaccines" is spewing out ignorant pseudoscientific disinformation about an issue that relates, in some way, to vaccines. But also just the fact that they do at all is absurd on its own. That's just great.

What is it with the health care industry that makes it produce so much disinformation, blatant lies at times, then go ahead and whine about how there's so much misinformation out there? I've never seen anything so dependent on being credible working harder to prove they don't deserve any. It's seriously excessive.