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BABCP Annual Conference and Workshops

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Sly Saint, Jun 14, 2018.

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  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Annual Conference & Workshops 2018

    Strathclyde University, Glasgow 17th - 20th July 2018

    http://babcpconference.com/

    A process of change: integrating physical and mental health into IAPT
    Chair:
    Trudie Chalder, King’s College London
    Speakers: Jo Hudson, King’s College London
    Georgina Miles, University of Sheffield
    Nicholas Wilkinson, TBC
    Trudie Chalder, King’s College London

    Online Cognitive Behavioural Therapy: Examining its acceptability, effectiveness, and
    implementation in UK care contexts
    Chair: Joanna Hudson, King’s College London
    Speakers:
    Jess Smith, King's College London
    Joanna Hudson, King’s College London
    Rona Moss-Morris, King’s College London
    Trudie Chalder, King’s College London
    Judith Gellatly, University of Manchester


    http://babcpconference.com/Originals/Conference_programme_2018.pdf


    CBT fest
     
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    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Here's a couple more items from the conference program:

    Edited to remove one example already quoted above.
     
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    Do they mean promising good results while giving a placebo?
     
    Hoopoe, Jun 14, 2018
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    Am I reading correctly?

    That must be some kind of joke. Or are they seriously believing that using the same paradigm in a slightly different context is what one would call change?

    If KCL withdrew, there wouldn't be a lot of people left, would it?
     
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    or do they mean lying to patients 'for their own good' 'therapist knows best'
    :(
     
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    Yep, I bet for a lot of paternalistic "we know better than these delutional patients, but let's not tell them right away they're so wrong, it would prevent them from engaging into therapy"
     
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    If therapeutic lie is a thing, why not therapeutic outcome switching and p-hacking? If a lie is good and helps the patient, then bigger lies must help even more. Maybe that explains why there is so much BS in this field.

    I'm having surreal feelings again. Surely this cannot be real.

    petolas-journey.jpg
     
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    considering they made a career out of lying maybe the process of change means they need to come up with better lies to keep getting their hands on taxpayers money . a meeting to find more ambiguous language to befuddle the governments purse keepers.
     
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    My son' s girlfriend qualifies as a nurse this year, specialising in mental health.
    Her opinion of CBT is not high - overhyped, overused , varying in quality and patient blaming if poor engagement. Her concern is that there is not much else in NHS box of tricks to offer ...
     
    Amw66, Jun 19, 2018
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    Sly Saint, Dec 20, 2018
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    Also known as Playing God. We all end up having to do this at times in real life, because life sometimes puts us in such situations without any choice. But the crucial thing is, when we have no choice but to make decisions on someone else's behalf, that we also have the considerable integrity needed to accompany it; to try as best we can to have the other person's genuine best interests at heart, rather than our own self interests masquerading theirs. So much of what I see with the BPS approach, is to play god but lacking the integrity.
     
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    I see that they are looking for stewards to help at the Conference....
     
    MEMarge, Dec 23, 2018
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    BABCP Conference Programme Schedule
    4th and 5th September 2019

    Wednesday 4th September
    Symposia, 09.00 - 11.00
    ACT for long term conditions
    Chair: Trudie Chalder, King’s College London
    Speaker: Chris Graham, School of Psychology, Queen's University Belfast
    Trudie Chalder, King’s College London
    Whitney Scott, Health Psychology Section, King's College, London
    Lucy O’Neil, University of Leeds

    Looks like ACT is heading our way big time.

    full 'agenda' here
    https://www.babcp.com/Conferences/Annual/Programme/Timetable.aspx
     
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    Is there any genuine point of difference between CBT and ACT or is it just changing the packaging to shed the growing evidence under the CBT description that “the product” is ineffective. Wrap it up in a new box and get the commissioners back on the hook.
     
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    There seems to be a whole industry built around this useless crap. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy? Shut up and accept your life is full of pain, discomfort, misery and feeling ill, and agree to commit to accepting it?

    In my experience Counselling is great, could be useful for many ME patients. But I'm talking Person Centred Counselling, and support, not CBT and other useless "interventions". Grrr. And these days the only counselling (note my lack of capital letter there) available on NHS is the useless sort.

    I'm lucky that I can afford to go privately to a great Counsellor (took me a while to find one who was a "match" for me) who has helped me a lot. This sort of really helpful help SHOULD be available on the NHS.

    Really despair at how NHS money is being spent on all the rubbish stuff, not to mention the research monies as well. :cry:
     
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    Yes @ladycatlover ive been having person centred counselling for years - way before I got ME diagnosis and I wish everyone with chronic illness especially ME could have access to this support.
     
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    CBT’s House of Cards?
    14th Aug 2019 http://www.cbtwatch.com/ (Dr Mike Scott)

     
    Sly Saint, Aug 17, 2019
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