Opinion CBT and graded exercise therapy studies have proven that ME/CFS and long Covid are physical diseases, yet no one is aware of that, 2024, Vink

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Dolphin, Jan 15, 2025.

  1. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Nor am I. That is the whole point.
    I was speculating that the conditions under which one is exercising, including aspects that may be determined by mental state may have a profound effect on muscle training. They may not, but the question was whether we could exclude the possibility and thereby support the claim in the title. An effect of mental state is likely to be mediated by autonomic pathways and maybe hormonal pathways since both are controlled by central brain areas.
     
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    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes but that is a different neuromuscular phenomenon commonly called 'shivering' and not the same as adrenergic tremor. So I guess irrelevant? We also shake with Parkinson's disease and old age. Irrelevant.
     
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    Utsikt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    To my non-English brain, you «sounded» more certain than what you describe now as speculation. I might also be reading more into things you say because you know so much about so many topics. Apologies for the misunderstanding and thank you for clarifying!
     
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    SNT Gatchaman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Now published.
     
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