Characterization, Treatment, and Long-term Follow-up of Fatigued Patients in Primary Care (iFAS), Lindsäter et al

rvallee said:
They will apply their standard formula of "we will rehabilitate you, you are being rehabilitated, you have been rehabilitated, therefore you are no longer disabled, next!"
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I also can't see it in any other way. This comes at a time when there is a lot of talk about the increase in sick leave and the Social Insurance Agency is warning that exhaustion disorder (ED) accounts for the largest increase. ED is Lindsäters' entry point in this study.
 
MittEremltage said:
I also can't see it in any other way. This comes at a time when there is a lot of talk about the increase in sick leave and the Social Insurance Agency is warning that exhaustion disorder (ED) accounts for the largest increase. ED is Lindsäters' entry point in this study.
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I hope the Covid Association is trying to tell them that the increase probably is an increase in LC?
 
MittEremltage said:
There is so much going on right now, and I don't have the capacity to keep up with everything. But I don't think I've seen any direct questioning of that particular issue. Unfortunately.
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I don’t expect you to be able to follow everything, you’re already on top of so much!

We have a huge debate in Norway regarding the increase in sick leave, and fortunately some researchers and doctors have been trying to explain that you have to consider covid as a massive contributor. It’s a shame if the same isn’t happening in Sweden.
 
Utsikt said:
I don’t expect you to be able to follow everything, you’re already on top of so much!

We have a huge debate in Norway regarding the increase in sick leave, and fortunately some researchers and doctors have been trying to explain that you have to consider covid as a massive contributor. It’s a shame if the same isn’t happening in Sweden.
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Sadly the political debate here in the UK seems to be pretending that Long Covid does not exist in the context of increasing numbers of long term sick/disabled.
 
Utsikt said:
I don’t expect you to be able to follow everything, you’re already on top of so much!

We have a huge debate in Norway regarding the increase in sick leave, and fortunately some researchers and doctors have been trying to explain that you have to consider covid as a massive contributor. It’s a shame if the same isn’t happening in Sweden.
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I didn't perceive you as demanding; it's mostly that I'm so incredibly frustrated that I can't keep up.

The Swedish Covid Association currently has a campaign to show the extent of post-Covid, where they themselves have funded a SIFO survey. 'Sweden' is not trying to find out the extent of the problems themselves, so the discussions are at the level of 'we actually exist'." As @Peter Trewhitt describes it…

https://covidforeningen-se.translat..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp
 
Peter Trewhitt said:
Sadly the political debate here in the UK seems to be pretending that Long Covid does not exist in the context of increasing numbers of long term sick/disabled.
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Not just that, but I've seen many discussions on UK social media insisting that it's only happening in the UK, completely detaching any possibility of this being because of COVID, since many literally insist that since it's not happening anywhere else, it can't be that. So the same "this is only happening here" discussion is happening in multiple countries at the same time. Absolute insanity. Experts are destroying the concept of truth even more efficiently than the most fevered conspiracy fantasies.

I see a lot of people, especially experts, deploring how some things are being handled, looking at the US becoming pro infection, the same herd immunity 'logic' being applied to measles and general indifference to bird flu, and being completely unwilling to make any connection to the expert and government messaging on COVID that has fueled the conspiracy movement so much in recent years.

They are making literally all the same arguments that apply with COVID, even as they themselves argue the very same things that the conspiracy crowds are pushing. The world is sinking deeper into madness as time goes on.
 
At the end of May, I published a series of posts about consent in research, particularly focusing on the Oslo Consortium's and Lindseter's Fatigue Study.

You can find the first post here (auto-translated). At the end of the post, you will find links to all the posts in the series.
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

After I published these posts, I have been contacted by several individuals who were subjected to recruitment attempts for the study and they have shared ethical concerns regarding how the recruitment process was conducted. One of the patients, for example, was told that participation in the study was the only chance to get better.

Knowledge is power:
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

An unacceptable procedure:
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp
 
MittEremltage said:
At the end of May, I published a series of posts about consent in research, particularly focusing on the Oslo Consortium's and Lindseter's Fatigue Study.

You can find the first post here (auto-translated). At the end of the post, you will find links to all the posts in the series.
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

After I published these posts, I have been contacted by several individuals who were subjected to recruitment attempts for the study and they have shared ethical concerns regarding how the recruitment process was conducted. One of the patients, for example, was told that participation in the study was the only chance to get better.

Knowledge is power:
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp

An unacceptable procedure:
https://mitteremitage-wordpress-com..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Unfortunately, I can’t say I’m surprised. And there will probably be no consequences, because the patients fear the consequences of speaking up.
 
A recently published scientific paper on a study investigating how doctors manage patients with fatigue confirms that it is inappropriate for primary care doctors to recruit patients to the Fatigue Study. Bizarrely, four out of five researchers in this study are also working on the Fatigue Study (linked to Oslo Chronic Fatigue Consortium).

Read more on my blog (Google Translated):
Newly published article confirms ethical problems with the Fatigue Study

Thread on S4ME about the article:
Physicians’ experiences of assessing and supporting fatigued patients in primary care: a focus group study, 2025, Samuelsson

And the Oslo Consortium: Oslo Chronic Fatigue Network
 
MittEremltage said:
A recently published scientific paper on a study investigating how doctors manage patients with fatigue confirms that it is inappropriate for primary care doctors to recruit patients to the Fatigue Study. Bizarrely, four out of five researchers in this study are also working on the Fatigue Study (linked to Oslo Chronic Fatigue Consortium).

Read more on my blog (Google Translated):
Newly published article confirms ethical problems with the Fatigue Study

Thread on S4ME about the article:
Physicians’ experiences of assessing and supporting fatigued patients in primary care: a focus group study, 2025, Samuelsson

And the Oslo Consortium: Oslo Chronic Fatigue Network
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Very good post! I had not thought of the connection and the implications when I read the study.
 
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