Coronavirus - worldwide spread and control

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52232147

Coronavirus: Should the world worry about Singapore's virus surge?

 

Today’s daily briefing

https://twitter.com/user/status/1248650881689620484


https://twitter.com/user/status/1248651754285211649


https://twitter.com/user/status/1248653354231910403

 

https://www.ft.com/content/44a40fcf-d641-46b2-a69e-46420ffb4933

 

In the Cadwalladr video posted by @Sasha - Dr Bharat Pankhania says that people "should not be dying alone" the "UK is a wealthy country".
Happened to watch a program last night, on the affect of the pandemic on a hospital in Lombardy. The had managed to make arrangements to have a small number of people with those who were dying - so it can be done.

@Invisible Woman

 

Not sure why you tagged me? My relative is dying, but was hospitalised for an additional & probably related emergency. Nothing to do with corona virus. However, due to corona virus restrictions in the hospital she can't have visitors. They couldn't even send in her kindle or mobile phone charger. Luckily someone already there has charged the phone for her.

There are lots of people who do not have corona virus are very ill and suffering in hospitals right now & doing so alone because of the restrictions needed to control the spread of corona virus within the hospitals themselves.

Edit - I'm not criticising hospitals for this. Just stating this is how it is.

 

Good advice from Prof Dale Fisher (chair of the WHO's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network and a professor at the National University of Singapore):

 

Dr Bharat Pankhania was the chap I'd been listening to on Talk Radio. They only seemed to have him on in the early hours of the morning though, not the prime time programmes!

 

Then they should also be revisiting how people convalesce and consider convalescence homes.

 

Czechia and Austria are as well on the road.

Czechia and Austria with masks (Czechia probably more restrictive than Austria, here only in supermarkets and buses asf. I think),

Austria keeps schools closed but wants to reopen some gastronomy,
whereas Denmark wants to reopen schools, I don´t know about restaurants asf.

In Germany there is at least some discussion, here Chancellor Merkel stays on the hard line.

 

Doesn’t it seem far too early to lift lockdown in these countries? What measures are in place to reduce resurgence? China was far far stricter with their lockdown and still had a lockdown of 2 months in Wuhan, and even then, they’ve had to be very careful when re-opening. I haven’t been closely following what’s happening in China recently but I’m sure they had to close things after opening them again after a resurgence of the virus in places.

 

What lockdown measures did China take that we are not taking in the UK now?

 

I wrote this post a while ago on this topic, after some research.

https://www.s4me.info/threads/coronavirus-worldwide-spread-and-control.13287/page-67#post-246451

Edit: most (all?) of that - the UK is not doing. Only thing maybe in common is the closing of all shops except food + pharmacies. Although i think would have been stricter in China. We do have some school closures, however some are still remaining open for key workers.

 

Less welding equipment is required here - when the Chinese authorities say don't go out they meant it, and were reported to be welding doors shut.

 

Canadian police are to begin visiting homes to enforce the government’s COVID-19 quarantine, the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) said on Friday, warning that “recklessly” failing to comply could result in a $1-million fine and three years in prison.

 

Here is a detailed account of life in China under quarantine, compare it to the UK.

"If you open your front door we'll call the police"
https://www.rte.ie/amp/1127028/

 

Volume 26, Number 7—July 2020
Research
High Contagiousness and Rapid Spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2
Steven Sanche1, Yen Ting Lin1, Chonggang Xu, Ethan Romero-Severson, Nick Hengartner, and Ruian Ke
Author affiliations: Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
Suggested citation for this article

Abstract
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 is the causative agent of the 2019 novel coronavirus disease pandemic. Initial estimates of the early dynamics of the outbreak in Wuhan, China, suggested a doubling time of the number of infected persons of 6–7 days and a basic reproductive number (R0) of 2.2–2.7. We collected extensive individual case reports across China and estimated key epidemiologic parameters, including the incubation period. We then designed 2 mathematical modeling approaches to infer the outbreak dynamics in Wuhan by using high-resolution domestic travel and infection data. Results show that the doubling time early in the epidemic in Wuhan was 2.3–3.3 days. Assuming a serial interval of 6–9 days, we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9). We further show that active surveillance, contact tracing, quarantine, and early strong social distancing efforts are needed to stop transmission of the virus.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

 

Wow.

And yet we are all opening our front doors and clapping & cheering at 8pm every Thursday... I watched a clip on tv of people in a row of houses (terraced) all standing at their doors... it's lovely & all, wonderful, but every set of 2 houses the doors are 1ft away from each other so the 2mtre distance cannot possibl be observed... surely that must be spreading things, especially if some of them isolating due to symptoms.

 

Same in my block of flats. It’s ridiculous. Our balconies are attached together so if my neighbour (not that he’s actually in the house right now), was to stand at his balcony, and my mum was to stand in hers - def less than 2m distance. But people were doing that last night. Or imagine hundreds of people (all in my block of flats) deciding to go outside at the same time to clap - where would they stand? And all of them using the same doors lift etc. This every Thursday. Saw this, this morning, and just despaired:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1248554662313299968

 

Talk of small reopenings has me wondering about a large number of people that have put off the doctor, hospital, pharmacy, radiologist for a few weeks, but for whose problems are growing increasingly problematic or annoying. Myself included, I've been realizing I've been telling myself I'll be getting things looked at in a few weeks, but that's not realistic really. Would an ease-off while covid is about, even if in low numbers, result in a surge of use of these services once again followed by the virus spreading?