Coronavirus - worldwide spread and control

The UK plan doesn’t make sense. Now they’re saying within 10-14 days they will ask everyone with a mild fever or respiratory symptoms to stay at home for 7 days. So instead of cancelling events, reducing chances of crowds to congregate, closing schools, asking people to work remotely or doing anything that other countries are doing.. just ask people to stay at home for 7 days if they have some symptoms? But without being tested? So how will they pick up who does and doesn’t have coronavirus? What if you infect everyone else in your family? What if you’re a carer?

Also they’ve done this without announcing how people will afford to be able to do that. Sick pay? Rent and mortgages? When I last went out, so many people were coughing and sneezing due to colds and flu. They’re not all going to stay at home. They can’t afford to. How will this work?

 

People won’t care I think. That’s why the Cheltenham festival is going ahead with potentially up to 250,000 people from across the country over 4 days. It’s up the govt to stop events.

 

They were discussing at risk groups yesterday on the Jeremy Vine show with Dr Sarah Jarvis; someone with ME contacted them. Dr Jarvis said "For pwME, we just don't know".

 

Glad some reseachers still use common sense

https://www.destentor.nl/algemeen/v...ok-met-milde-klachten-overdraagbaar~ada6d8b5/

 

This is interesting. South Korea has a very low death rate.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1236481002303664128


https://twitter.com/user/status/1236482545753022464

 

Actually i'm quite impressed with Dr J for that. We don't know, & at least it sounds like she didn't give the caller the brush off/minimise etc.

 

PWME do seem to respond to challenges in very different ways.

For instance, some of us have relapsed after a 'flu vaccine, whilst others have it every year with no problem at all. Some pick up every cold that goes around; some almost never get them; some seem to have the same number of colds as everyone else.

It could well be similar with the new virus, i.e. no clearly discernible patterns – at least in those who don't have additional long-term conditions.

 

Thought people might find this article from the Grauniad of interest.

 

I just read this twitter thread about the situation with coronavirus in northern Italy :

https://twitter.com/user/status/1237142891077697538

Code:

https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538

People don't need a twitter account in order to read public twitter threads.

 

These warnings coming out of Wuhan and now Italy, are terrifying. Northern Italy has one of the best healthcare systems in the world as ranked by the WHO, and many times the number of intensive Care Beds we have in the UK. 3/4 of our intensive care beds are already taken. Yet this has happened in Italy. It’s going to be too late for us and I don’t know what our leaders think they’re doing by not bringing in social distancing yet. God I feel so helpless and scared.

 

I don't think anyone has posted this Johns Hopkins link yet (searched but could not find it) so here it is:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

There's an interactive map feature:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

 

It is possible to get things under control - if people do their part.

The South Korea Experience:


https://t.co/sueAO9XLF7

 

An interesting article dated 31/01/2020 about the US response to coronavirus :

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/3...ited-states-public-health-emergency-response/

And another one which mentions test kits :

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/08/u...navirus-moves-from-containment-to-mitigation/

 

Italian doctor's urgent message to other countries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddNwM9L6fBM

 

What does an epidemic peak mean? Does it mean the highest number of cases there ever will be in that country?

If so, why did the UK say yesterday a peak is expected within a fortnight? How do they know it’ll come down after that, and How can anyone actually predict a peak until after it’s happened. I don’t think any cases in Europe have peaked yet?

 

This sounds to be a crucial part of how the South Koreans seem to have got on top of things:

 

I think it must mean number of cases diagnosed per day. If it was cumulative then it could flat line but never go back down, so to my way of looking at it could never 'peak' though some might nonetheless report it that way I suppose. But I'm no expert on this!

 

Hmm yes. But how can they imagine it will peak in 2 weeks and the number of cases will start coming down after that, when they’ve basically taken no social distancing measures right now :/ what can that be based on?

 

Another interesting public twitter thread, this time about China and how they’ve fought back against the virus (click on one of the pictures to read full thread):

https://twitter.com/user/status/1237020518781460480


https://twitter.com/user/status/1237020519934889986


https://twitter.com/user/status/1237020522548002818

 

The chinese government did at first try to hide and then try to donwplay the problem.