Effect of high dose vitamin C on Epstein-Barr viral infection, 2014, Mikirova et al

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    Effect of high dose vitamin C on Epstein-Barr viral infection

    Nina A Mikirova, Ronald Hunninghake

    Background
    Many natural compounds were tested for the ability to suppress viral replication. The present manuscript details an analysis of high dose vitamin C therapy on patients with EBV infection.

    Material/Methods
    The data were obtained from the patient history database at the Riordan Clinic. Among people in our database who were treated with intravenous vitamin C (7.5 g to 50 g infusions) between 1997 and 2006, 178 patients showed elevated levels of EBV EA IgG (range 25 to 211 AU) and 40 showed elevated levels of EBV VCA IgM (range 25 to 140 AU). Most of these patients had a diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome, with the rest being diagnosed as having mononucleosis, fatigue, or EBV infection.

    Results
    Our data provide evidence that high dose intravenous vitamin C therapy has a positive effect on disease duration and reduction of viral antibody levels.

    Plasma levels of ascorbic acid and vitamin D were correlated with levels of antibodies to EBV. We found an inverse correlation between EBV VCA IgM and vitamin C in plasma in patients with mononucleosis and CFS meaning that patients with high levels of vitamin C tended to have lower levels of antigens in the acute state of disease.

    In addition, a relation was found between vitamin D levels and EBV EA IgG with lower levels of EBV early antigen IgG for higher levels of vitamin D.

    Conclusions
    The clinical study of ascorbic acid and EBV infection showed the reduction in EBV EA IgG and EBV VCA IgM antibody levels over time during IVC therapy that is consistent with observations from the literature that millimolar levels of ascorbate hinder viral infection and replication in vitro.

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    These charts look the most interesting, though they'd be more compelling if it was an RCT. I imagine there could be many confounders here.

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    The methods above say "Among people in our database who were treated at the clinic with intravenous vitamin C (7.5 g to 50 g infusions) for various illness, we found 178 patients" but this chart includes people who did not receive vitamin C, so I don't know where they came from.

    Also, did the people who did not receive IVC already have low antibody levels, so a smaller/no decrease would be expected?

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    Same question about starting antibody levels being related to number of treatments here too.

    EBV also correlated to vitamin D levels. They followed these patients for some time, but I don't see anything saying what time point these readings are from. Also, no p-value provided here.
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    The data is from patients at the Riordan Clinic, which provides high dose IV vitamin C to patients. The lead author has worked there since 1997, and the other author since 1989, so I don't understand why the paper says they have no competing interests.
    They have also received a warning letter from the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) to stop saying vitamin C is beneficial/preventive for COVID:
     
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    I emailed the lead author to ask about the competing interests section. If she doesn't respond, I might make a comment on PubPeer, unless someone here can point out why that might legitimately say no COI.
     

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