FREE Long Covid and ME/CFS Holistic Healing VIRTUAL SUMMIT July 10-16, 2023

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https://living-from-inspiration.myk...stic-healing-summit-for-long-covid-and-me-cfs

7 days of free online talks with speakers ranging from outright quacks to respectable researchers like Leonard Jason and Todd Davenport.

Meet YOUR HOST

Lorrie Rivers
Lorrie Rivers is the founder of Living From Inspiration and the creator of the Relief & Transformation: Managing Long Covid and ME/CFS online Course and Membership Program. Lorrie has been coaching people around the world with post viral syndromes such as ME/CFS and now Long Covid for 20 years.

After healing from severe ME/CFS that kept her housebound and bedbound for 8+ years in her 20s, Lorrie began coaching others in the tried and true methods that had helped her. She recognized there were some things to DO and things to NOT DO in order to recover and/or live a full life within the illness. Through her own experience and from working with hundreds of clients, she developed the step by step Relief & Transformation program, which is what she wished she had so many years ago.


In addition to her Holistic and Well-Being coaching practice, Lorrie is also a best-selling co-author with Deepak Chopra and Wayne Dyer, an RYT500 yoga instructor, a charter Healing Codes + Trilogy Energy Medicine coach, and a medical intuitive.

Lorrie also created the Yoga + Strength Training for Long Covid and ME/CFS online program, which allows you to move your body without slowing down recovery or crashing.
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The emphasis is clearly on alt med and people who claim to have cured themselves and now run lucrative businesses promoting their protocols and claiming cures.

I don't understand why respectable scientists and clinicians would associate themselves with this.
 
NelliePledge said:
What is Methylene Blue? It sounds suspiciously like loo cleaner.
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I'm puzzled about this as well. I had never heard of it until about two or three months ago, and yet I have seen it mentioned quite a lot of times since then on all sorts of websites, as well as by various doctors, some possible crackpots and quacks, and Google Scholar has about 3.7 million search results for it.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=methylene+blue&btnG=

It has apparently been around for over a century (according to wikipedia), but why haven't I heard of it before and what has made it very popular all of a sudden?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_blue
 
NelliePledge said:
What is Methylene Blue? It sounds suspiciously like loo cleaner.
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Arnie Pye said:
what has made it very popular all of a sudden?
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On Dr Sherr who is speaking at the event:


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kayl...029063501264404481-P2kr/?originalSubdomain=om
Today I am speaking with Dr. Scott Sherr, we are going to over the most up to date science on Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy and mitochondrial optimization with methylene blue.

Dr. Scott Sherr is a Board Certified Internal Medicine Physician Certified to Practice Health Optimization Medicine (HOMe) and a specialist in Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT).

His clinical practice includes HOMe as its foundation plus an integrative approach to hyperbaric oxygen therapy that includes cutting-edge and dynamic HBOT protocols, comprehensive laboratory testing (using the HOMe framework), targeted supplementation, personal practices, synergistic technologies (new and ancient), and more.
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In addition, Dr. Scott is also the COO of Smarter Not Harder (SNH). SNH is the company behind Troscriptions, a line of buccal troches that Democratize Enlightenment by addressing the bottlenecks along the path to optimal health. They have three products on the market now: Blue Cannatine, Just Blue, and Tro Calm. Use code KAYLa to save on Troscriptions.
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buccal troche - a lozenge

Just Blue is our pure methylene blue nootropic made with 16mg of pharmaceutical-grade, purity/potency tested, methylene blue.
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Some warnings, there are probably more things to be aware of. It can also cause allergic reactions

Methylene blue can interact with serotonergic medications (drugs that enhance the action of serotonin, a brain chemical) and cause life-threatening central nervous system toxicity.

Additionally, methylene blue can interact with numerous other drugs by increasing their levels in the body, thus raising the risk for side effects. Examples of such drugs are digoxin, warfarin, phenytoin, dihydroergotamine, ergotamine, fentanyl, sirolimus (aka rapamycin), and tacrolimus.

Taking Methylene blue can be toxic if taken during pregnancy. It has been known to cause intestinal atresia, fetal abnormalities, hyperbilirubinemia, and fetal death. It’s recommended that you use birth control if you’re taking Methylene blue.
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If i remember correctly wasn't this one of the hippy drugs of the seventies used to bring people down after a high .
 
In addition to her Holistic and Well-Being coaching practice, Lorrie is also a best-selling co-author with Deepak Chopra and Wayne Dyer, an RYT500 yoga instructor, a charter Healing Codes + Trilogy Energy Medicine coach, and a medical intuitive.

At least she is a fully qualified charlatan.
 
What's even more amazing is that the use of "holistic" here is the exact same as in psychosomatic medicine. Doesn't seem to bother them that they are talking about the exact same thing as people they openly dismiss and view as quacks. The lack of self-awareness and self-reflection is staggering.
 
Methylene blue is widely used as an antiparasitic in the aquarium trade. Apparently it blocks nitric oxide synthase in humans, which might raise blood pressure and account for some reported effects. I wouldn't do that to myself, personally.

This all looks very LP like with all the same problems. IMHO PWME are particularly vulnerable to hope farmers due to cognitive dysfunction and high degrees of stress. In fact I would go so far as to say we can be hypersuggestible.

People are gullible even without ME though. Dont get me started on cults like TM, $1000 to learn to levitate from "TM university".
During the practice of Yogic Flying, brainwave synchrony is maximised as the body lifts up and moves forward in short hops.
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Levitation my arse!

TM try to wheedle their way into the mainstream every generation to find more victims. Lost intellectuals get tied up in sophistry and narcissism all the time and some then graduate to become perpetrators.
 
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Sean said:
Worth repeating.

The mainstream 'experts' just view stuff like LP, et al, as another form of placebo.
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I will never forget Wessely's answer to someone asking him that about PACE, something to the effect of: "the placebo is one of the most powerful interventions we have". Even though by design and definition, it is the least effective treatment that has ever existed, since every approved treatment must do better than nothing/placebo. And of course many fake treatments have passed this "test", showing that it was always a mere issue of actually measuring outcomes. It always struck me as so absurd but also it just explains so much about what these people believe.

But of course that's where the separation between medicine and psychology is critical, because however that may be true in medicine, once you've de-medicalized an issue this doesn't matter anymore. Even though their claims are definitely used medically, psychology standards overruling medical ones out of sheer belief and ideology. I guess it just doesn't matter at this point, there's no oversight for any of it.

Before placebo this was called "white coat effect", or something like that. It was the belief that the mere presence of a doctor was healing, they're just magical beings like that, reassuring and everything. And then things just got way out of hand from there. A very harsh lesson in opportunity cost, what is lost by making a choice. Here the decision to go all in on woo destroyed tens of millions of lives and regressed medicine massively, but criticize any of it and you are right back to the old days of religious doctrines imposing myths and traditions above reality.
 
Sean said:
How is this not reckless cruel fraud? There is no way that claim holds against the evidence.
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It's fully consistent with widespread beliefs that our "issues" are basically nocebo, or nothing at all, or whatever, therefore placebo is definitely acceptable. Maximizing it is thus definitely optimal, especially as it can do no direct harm, and indirect harms are irrelevant, too hard to even define. Beliefs are fuzzy, can't really be judged adequately, and those beliefs are unquestionable for now, about equal to genetics and every other foundational theory of medicine.

Unfortunately we are in a "who will police the police?" situation, where hardly any MD would dare criticize this, the risk to career is too high. And since MDs would ultimately decide whether this is fraudulent, well, the police definitely thinks they're doing a great job here.
 
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