In your opinion, what has changed, if anything, in ME/CFS research in the last 10 years? If it has, what do you think was the catalyst?

Could you expand on what you mean here please?

As someone involved in advocacy, I would genuinely appreciate having my arguments sharpened.

In case it's helpful, here are some previous discussions on that (this was before DecodeME so this study's results and implications should be added) :

https://s4me.info/threads/non-evide...omedical-and-psychological-me-research.18266/ (members only)

https://s4me.info/threads/arguments-that-could-backfire.32603/ (members only)

https://s4me.info/threads/useful-ar...ychological-and-biomedical-me-research.21934/ (fully public)


And how all that translates into good briefing material see the S4ME factsheets
 
recent changes, or lack of, in the ME/CFS research field
Patient involvement and regular communication (thanks @Chris Ponting )

Outside of DecodeME, it doesn't feel like much has changed, as significant amount of the the Long Covid research seems to be repeating stuff that was looked at (and disproved) in the 80s for ME/CFS.

Funding continues to be embarrassingly unavailable and inadequate in proportion to disease burden, despite a lot of work from a lot of good people.

Frustratingly, the behavioral/rehab approach continues to absorb any available funding despite clearly evidenced lack of results, as demonstrated by the NG206 NICE guidelines review.

Positive research findings, such as DecodeME don't have the impact that we would have hoped, or the same level of publicity/impact as very poor behavioral rehab studies, which do not have even a fraction of the rigor.

Focus on projects such as PROMS, keeps the field repeating the same mistakes that have already been shown to be detrimental, absorb funding, and keep focus on the subjective, and not the objective and measurable.
 
It’s remarkable how little this essay by Jonathan Edwards from 2019 has aged:



We need research on a broad front to identify leads to focus efforts on.​
Genetics has to be a worthwhile area to cover.​
There are indications that there is genetic susceptibility.​
Finding out what the genes are may only provide pointers rather than specific answers, but these would still be powerful.​
In my view chasing viruses or gut bacteria is likely to be a waste of time.​
It is unlikely that any one infectious agent is important.​
Shifts in gut bacteria seem equally unlikely to be important.​
If micro-organisms were relevant to the persistence of the chronic illness then amongst the millions of people with ME there should be at least a few thousand cases that provide clear clinical clues to how. Epidemiology should have shown something up.​



From:
What is ME?: A Medical Outsider’s Viewpoint
 
The pandemic and Long COVID brought top-tier researchers like Akiko Iwasaki, Marc Wüst, and many others into the field—scientists who thoroughly studied the existing ME/CFS literature without uncritically absorbing the mainstream assumptions cherished by the leading clinicians, researchers, and patients alike. Instead, they dared to question long-held beliefs that had hardened into "evidence" without actual evidence (such as the idea that herpesviruses were a dead horse or that valacyclovir is useless) over decades of neglect and underfunding. As a result of their empirical work to identify the most promising hypotheses, the role of herpesviruses in ME/CFS pathomechanism has gained renewed interest and is now finally being properly investigated with the necessary funding and modern methodologies.
 
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Funding continues to be embarrassingly unavailable and inadequate in proportion to disease burden, despite a lot of work from a lot of good people.
The funding situation in the UK is still in dire straits. Compared with 10 years ago, we probably have fewer small or medium-sized grants/projects, with fewer groups engaged in the field with active grants. Funds have instead been concentrated around some larger projects (PRIME and LOCOME).

The overall spend, now DecodeME has ended, is probably no higher than a decade ago.

No significant NIHR funding except for the HERITAGE study.

The expectation was that DecodeME, and other efforts such as the Priority Setting Partnership project, would help spur new research proposals but that hasn't manifested. I really hope PRIME helps to change this situation.
 
There is little else I can add to the above comments, except in response to the disappointing impact of DecodeME, that it might be a little premature to assess the impact of DecodeME. The preliminary results from the August 2025 preprint have not been formally published and the analysis in general is still ongoing.

To a significant proportion of people, unpublished results might as well not exist. And IIRC, the preprint did encourage the preliminary funding for SequenceME. DecodeME and SequenceME could still change everything, but as Chris Ponting said, should have been done 15 years ago.

I suspect a lot of people will look at the small odds ratios in the preprint and shrug their shoulders, believing they are looking at a heap of ordinary rock when in fact they are looking at a heap of gold ore.
 
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I’m not sure how qualified I am to speak on this. A decade ago I hadn’t been ill for that long and wasn’t aware of the field or the science.

On the positives there seems to have been great steps forward. We do see some fantastic papers and meticulous research and it feels like those efforts build on each other. On the other we still see plenty of poor quality stuff and it seems to outnumber the good. On the positive there are communities like this, projects like PRIME from charities and funds like those from We&ME. On the other hand we still see charities pushing or investing in poor quality research either from naivety or a desire to please donors. On the positive we have seen some investment from government on the other hand it’s still a pittance and all too rare.

So I think there are positive changes. But it’s led by a dedicated few. Plenty of others refuse to look at the evidence. We don’t see the acceptance of the problems or urgency from those who could really shift things and often whose job it is to. Be they charities or governments. That hasn’t changed despite I think there being good reason it should have.
 
Instead, they dared to question long-held beliefs

Really? They seem to me to be parroting the oldest beliefs of all. What have these 'top-tier' researchers achieved, other than using up vast quantities of money and going backwards?
Maybe you mean Rob Wüst, who is a welcome enthusiast but I am a bit doubtful that any of his data will be replicable.
 
There is little else I can add to the above comments, except in response to the disappointing impact of DecodeME, that it might be a little premature to assess the impact of DecodeME.

I cannot think why any one woud consider DecodeME disappointing. It pulled out genetic risk factors nobody could have predicted specifically but which make a lot of sense. The almost complete focus of the genes on neurons makes complete sense and shows us how to take research forward. We now need functional studies of the relevant genes and they are starting. DecodeME also provided some key negatives that point away from antibody mechanisms and mitochondria. Above all, it provided the first hard evidence that 'ME/CFS' identifies a real syndrome. It is he equivalent of the discovery of the link to DR4 in rheumatoid in the 1970s, even if a bit more subtle.

I think some people find it hard to frame shift and move with the times!!
 
I might be talking out of my hat but aren't DecodeME and hopefully SequenceME kind of groundbreaking not just for M/CFS but also generally in the world of genetics? Like world class?

DecodeME was a very standard GWAS exercise on the face of it. It should probably have been done ten years earlier. and might have been if the politics of ME/CFS research had not been so badly gerrymandered.

On the other hand DecodeME did something that was fairly new in two respects. It took a 'contested' syndrome and showed that it had an identifiable causal identity. I am not sure how often that has happened before. It also showed that if you have a syndrome for which all theories of mechanism seem to have fizzled out from negative supporting evidence and you have no real idea where to go next, a genetic screen can generate leads. There was good reason to think it might but also plenty of scepticism.

What I think makes DecodeME world class is the care with which it was executed. It was analysed in a way that gave us just a few robust leads. In comparison, most of the other genetic studies we have seen pointed us to hundreds of 'maybe' genes because the methodology tried to be clever and ended up being less so.

SequenceME may be groundbreaking in its size and ambition. I strongly suspect that it will shed light on a whole lot of other diseases too. For instance, it may tell us what the OLFM4 signal means and why a nearby signal means something different in other diseases.
 
I have only been ill since 2022, so I am still relatively new to the history of ME/CFS — although, in my experience, every month spent severely ill can sometimes feel like several months in the moderate stage, simply because the level of suffering and restriction is so extreme.

I often wonder what ME/CFS research was really like before 2020. My own research only began in March 2025, when I finally understood what was happening to me.

At the time, I kept coming across the same names and the same hypotheses: the Davis family, the Itaconate Shunt, Klaus Wirth’s work around mitochondrial dysfunction, viral persistence with Putrino, PolyBio and others. I completely missed the whole BC007 episode — and, looking back, perhaps that was not such a bad thing.

I have the impression that 2025 was an important year. There was DecodeME, the work published by Fluge and Mella and several other studies that I found particularly interesting, including the study involving autopsies of the brains of severely affected patients.

But one question keeps bothering me, and perhaps it is a naive one : why do some of the best-known researchers sometimes seem to pursue their own particular avenue almost independently of what is happening elsewhere ?

I was struck, for example, by how little attention DecodeME sometimes seems to receive in the public discourse of otherwise highly influential researchers: Scheibenbogen, Wirth, Davis, PolyBio, West, Putrino, Iwasaki, Lipkin, Klimas... I remember reading an interview with Nancy Klimas and getting the impression that she remained very focused on her own therapeutic trials — Sipavibart, probiotics, and so on — without really integrating what DecodeME might change in the way the disease is understood.

And yet the DecodeME findings seem robust enough to deserve a much broader mobilisation of the field. Of course, a genetic association is not a mechanistic explanation, let alone an immediate therapeutic target. But it provides objective anchors. It should, it seems to me, encourage teams to work collectively on the implicated genes, biological pathways and cell types, rather than continuing to pursue their own theories in isolation.

That is probably what has surprised me most since I started discovering how research actually works. Before becoming severely ill, I naively imagined biomedical science as a kind of vast collective construction, where every new solid piece of evidence would immediately reshape everyone’s hypotheses.
Instead, I am discovering something far more human : laboratories with their own areas of expertise, funding streams, long-standing hypotheses, trials already underway, collaborations, and sometimes rivalries — and therefore a certain degree of intellectual inertia.

Meanwhile, severe and very severe patients continue to live in conditions that I find profoundly undignified. There is a lot of discussion about biomarkers, mechanisms, trials and models, but much less about the absolute urgency of the situation facing people who sometimes can no longer wash themselves, speak, tolerate light or sound, and whose lives may be reduced to a single room for years.

Perhaps this is stating the obvious, but I increasingly feel that we will not get very far if every research team continues to play its own instrument alone.
What we need is an orchestra.
Researchers need to be willing to abandon hypotheses more quickly when they no longer fit the emerging evidence.

I am probably stating things that are obvious to people who have followed this field for years. But having discovered all of this only after becoming severely ill, I remain deeply surprised by the way biomedical research actually functions.

I thought I was entering the world of the “hard sciences.”

What I am discovering instead is that, even when the data are hard, the people interpreting them are still human.
 
DecodeME was a very standard GWAS exercise on the face of it. It should probably have been done ten years earlier. and might have been if the politics of ME/CFS research had not been so badly gerrymandered.

On the other hand DecodeME did something that was fairly new in two respects. It took a 'contested' syndrome and showed that it had an identifiable causal identity. I am not sure how often that has happened before. It also showed that if you have a syndrome for which all theories of mechanism seem to have fizzled out from negative supporting evidence and you have no real idea where to go next, a genetic screen can generate leads. There was good reason to think it might but also plenty of scepticism.

What I think makes DecodeME world class is the care with which it was executed. It was analysed in a way that gave us just a few robust leads. In comparison, most of the other genetic studies we have seen pointed us to hundreds of 'maybe' genes because the methodology tried to be clever and ended up being less so.

SequenceME may be groundbreaking in its size and ambition. I strongly suspect that it will shed light on a whole lot of other diseases too. For instance, it may tell us what the OLFM4 signal means and why a nearby signal means something different in other diseases.
I feel like the government should be promoting the UK/Edinburgh as a world class genetics centre
 
I just want to thank @neophyte32 and @hummingbird95 for putting a few points so well and eloquently especially on severe me/cfs but also more widely

There needs to be a major focus on the health care needs and the least harmful ways of providing that care to patients, with robust guidelines for clinicians.

As a person with severe me, it just feels like so many of us are fighting/advocating individually at a time when systems should be supporting us most.

There is a lot of discussion about biomarkers, mechanisms, trials and models, but much less about the absolute urgency of the situation
 
Perhaps this is stating the obvious, but I increasingly feel that we will not get very far if every research team continues to play its own instrument alone.
What we need is an orchestra.
Researchers need to be willing to abandon hypotheses more quickly when they no longer fit the emerging evidence.
Yes! Part of the issue here tho is that if your lab is really set up to do tests X,Y and Z, it become difficult to re-jigger your whole lab and personnel to do A,B and C.
 
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