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Judy Mikovits

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Hell..hath..no..fury..., Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Sisyphus

    Sisyphus Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Does she not understand what she’s doing, or has she no shame about the harm she is willfully doing?
     
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    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The concept "wilfully" has been known to cause all sorts of conundrums.
     
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  3. Andy

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    Podcast: Things Fell Apart by Jon Ronson

    How a chance encounter in a yacht club in the early 2000s between a bartender [Judy Mikovits] and a very wealthy couple with a daughter sick with a mystery disease [CFS] ended with the creation of the first great covid conspiracy theory.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001vccn
     
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    thank you for sharing. That was a good episode I think with a fair presentation of a series of very, very, strange events. It's about her and her radicalisation. ME is mentioned as CFS and as a devastating disease, but not gone into in detail. I've listen to a few of Jon Ronson's audio books and really liked his journalism. I think he did a decent job here as well.
     
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    havent the energy to listen to it but am interested to know what the covid conspiracy theory was that arose from the Mikovits events... if anyone knows briefly what that is?
     
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  7. Andy

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    It's more that following the XMRV events, Mikovits became more and more extreme in her stated views until, come the pandemic, she ended up being a full-on anti-vaccine, "it's all a govt plot and Fauci is to blame" conspiracist, who was featured in the Plandemic film.
     
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    Arnie Pye Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    According to Wikipedia, Mikovits is a former biochemistry research scientist. And now she's a bartender? That is a sad career progression for anyone.
     
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    the podcast says she started as a bartender and is good at mixing drinks as a chemist, so she made drinks as a member of a yacht club where she met Whitaker who had a daughter with ME and hired her to solve the disease.

    the podcast also says she lost her husband to covid. I was sorry to hear that.
     
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  10. Trish

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    She denies he died of Covid and considers his death certificate is wrong.
     
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    The career change happened by her choice before the whole XMRV fiasco. She met her husband and moved with him and became bar tender in a small sailing club they joined.

    The XMRV thing was a result of her meeting the very wealth Whittemore family at the sailing club and getting to know them, and they appointed her to try to find the cause of their daughter's ME. It seemed like the set up the Whittmore institute for her work.
     
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  12. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    gee! I've just listened to the episode and already misremembered some details :oops: thanks for adding correct info, Trish! :)
     
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  13. Trish

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    I wouldn't guarantee my info is correct either. :laugh:
     
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