Maeve Boothby O'Neill - articles about her life, death and inquest

For the record, long article about Maeve is on page 14 of the Sunday Times print copy, centre of the page. Large photo of Sarah Boothby at Maeve's grave with full length photo of Maeve superimposed.
Headline " As Maeve lay dying in pain, they were pointing the finger at me."

One or two points
1. In the ME world, we are more familiar with FII and parents being accused of harming their children.
2. Maeve was an adult which didn't protect Sarah from accusations of FDIA, factitious disorder imposed on another, which the Sunday Times describes as the most extreme form of FII.


Sarah wants social workers and clinicians to be aware " how traumatic that safeguarding process is. And if you add trauma into ME, you will make all of those patients worse." Utterly horrific for any family already facing severe trauma in caring for an ME patient to face this. On top of medical mismanagement, we have community mental health social workers compounding the problem. I don't understand why this was not examined further at the inquest although since the family did not know of these concerns, they could not bring it up. I don't remember the seven safeguarding meetings in the last year of Maeve's life being referred to or those staff giving evidence.

The Times/Sunday Times is doing all it can to keep the focus on this case, and all that went wrong.

Now off to bed.....
 
@Maat

Todays Times article - 'As my daughter died of ME, the state met in secret to blame me'
Accessible archive Link



The long Times article of 19/7/2025
'We demanded help for our sick children. We were accused of abuse
Some of society’s most vulnerable are being torn from their families by officials who claim their parents are fabricating illness'

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'New research shows that FII [Fabricated or Induced Illness] has been substantiated only in four serious case reviews since 2010 and caused no deaths. Yet a snapshot survey by the University of Leeds in 2023 found that almost 400 families reported having been accused of FII.'

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Thanks very much.

This has gone on for years, but has been made significantly worse by the 2021 revision

Yes, Sophia Mirza and her mother went through something similar in 2003, and goodness knows how many before or since.

And yet the threat of these accusations and their appalling real world consequences continues on to this day.

This has left me actually speechless.
 
The ME gaslighting, sexist, denigratory, and at times downright malicious, ME disease-denier brigade is energetically out in the Times comments today. Always the same fatuous, or frankly false, arguments.
The same names in the Comments to Every ME Article in The Times, year after year, disparaging ME and people who have it, urging depriving ME of funding and services, framing ME as psychiatric, or just undeserving ('the NHS just can't afford ME'), and justifying mistreatment/abuse of the patients,

Their framing of ME and the patients is pure BPS.
Sometimes they look very much like a lobby,
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The ME gaslighting, sexist, denigratory, and at times downright malicious, ME disease-denier brigade is energetically out in the Times comments today. Always the same fatuous, or frankly false, arguments. The same names disparaging ME and urging depriving ME of funding and services, framing ME as psychiatric, or just undeserving (the NHS just can't afford ME), and justifying mistreatment/abuse of the patients, in the comments to Every ME Article, year after year.

Their framing of ME and the patients is pure BPS.
Sometimes they look very much like a lobby,
Are these real people or just people with vested interests in the situation? I can't decide if these comments should be moderated or left up so people can see what we are up against.
 
Are these real people or just people with vested interests in the situation? I can't decide if these comments should be moderated or left up so people can see what we are up against.

In order to Comment under Times articles it is necessary to have a paid subscription and use the Commenter name the payment is under. Though The Times offers subscription deals which can be repeated (deals such as subscription for £1 a month for 4 months). So Commenters must be paying subscribers.
 
The ME gaslighting, sexist, denigratory, and at times malicious, ME disease-denier brigade is energetically out in the Times comments today. Always the same fatuous, or frankly false, arguments. The same names disparaging ME and urging depriving ME of funding and services, framing ME as psychiatric, or just undeserving (the NHS just can't afford ME), in the comments to Every ME Article, year after year. Sometimes they look very much like a lobby,
I can't see the comments, but I can imagine. Sounds like panic. They need to be careful they don't make themselves extremely tired...
 
"A spokesman for NHS England said: “The NHS is determined to improve the experiences of people with ME/chronic fatigue syndrome. NHS England is working closely with the government to implement the national plan published last month to improve knowledge and transform care for patients — and has already rolled out new training to increase understanding of the condition among clinical staff."
I don't believe what you say, because I've seen what you do, and even what you plan to do, and it's all the same BS and lies.

This is not surprising, and it makes a total mockery of the inquiry and the hospital's and health care services lies about not being guided in their decisions by an obsession with seeing Maeve as a nut case.

Which all makes a total mockery of the very system of prevention of future deaths and any accountability for this system, because it literally cannot function if the people responsible for wrongdoing can simply lie about what they did and why. This is exactly what a cover-up looks like, not that there was much doubt about it. There should be perjury penalties for doing this, and obviously there won't be, because it's a cover-up.
 
On a thread somewhere 3-5 years ago I posted an image of a PowerPoint slide which was part of a presentation for social workers, police etc in re new FII guidelines .
I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure a diagnosis of CFS was flagged as a predisposing factor .
Bath had significant input into developing these .

Essentially they are blaming parents for the failure of their " treatment" , rather than reassessing it.
 
On a thread somewhere 3-5 years ago I posted an image of a PowerPoint slide which was part of a presentation for social workers, police etc in re new FII guidelines .
I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure a diagnosis of CFS was flagged as a predisposing factor .
Bath had significant input into developing these .

Essentially they are blaming parents for the failure of their " treatment" , rather than reassessing it.
It’s like criminalising homelessness. The system is so broken.
 
I've just been able to read the full Times Article.

Let Justice Arise
Poet: Catherine Pulsifer

In the stillness of truth, let justice arise,
With eyes that see beyond biased disguise.
For each soul, regardless of birth or faith,
Deserves an equal measure, a fair wraith.

Be it woman or man, see respect profound,
Let not prejudice spin its wheels around.
In seeking justice, we must unite,
For justice knows no bounds when right takes flight.
 
Reddit discussion —

Presumably what the gastroenterologists call the 'robust psychological support' they recommend as the cure for starvation. I learnt that therapists are trained to behave as if they know what they are doing when they don't all the time when I did my training in rehabilitation (for which I was accredited as a rehabilitation physician) in 1983. I decided that rehabilitation was not for me.
 
In unity with Maeve and her family, by way of support, I share my 'experience' of ME/CFS. It highlights the same themes.

It was only when updating my knowledge of FII, FDIA that I realised that my medical records are also likely to contain some reference of both FII, and also FDIA (the latter includes pets).

From January to August 2020 during lockdown I was becoming more and more malnourished and so were my two cats, my only companions after 14 years with severe ME/CFS. The isolation in this illness is imposed not sought. After they died in my arms from starvation and in my own increasingly amaciated state I had to summon the strength to bury them in the garden. By August I was suicidal, I wanted to end my suffering. It was only after I would not go quietly into that good night and raged, raged at the dying of light, that anybody noticed. By that time, I no longer cared about living. Police were called and carried out welfare checks several times, then came the social workers for the same reason.

I was hospitalised twice for malnutrition and sent home with a six pack of ensures each time. They were busy though dealing with the pandemic, after all, people were dying. Through no fault of their own.

After more raging by playing loud music and destroying my own property, I was put in a place of safety, twice where they literally nothing then returned home. I was continuing to starve and I'd resolved by that point I would rage until I could finally rage no more. I was scooped up by the police in the middle of the night and taken to hospital for a pscyhe assesesstment. I was left in a room with a bright light on for what seemed like hours until the psychiatrist arrived in a pair.

Eventually I was arrested and charged, for disturbing the community. As I was deemed a danger to myself and to others in my increasingly malnourished state I was placed on remand in a womens' prison, who have absolutely no idea nor care about ME/CFS. A more noisy unsuitable environment for a severe ME/CFS patient does not exist. On being forced to walk from one cell block across a courtyard to another carrying my own bedding wash kit, towels etc after being refused a wheelchair - I collapsed. I kept trying to end my life and so I was sectioned after refusing to take sertraline until I was told by a medical professional what it was for. As I was walked through the prison corridor to the van to take me to goodness knows where as I had not been told I had been sectioned, one of the guards behind me said to another, she's faking it. I hit out with my walking stick and was placed in head down restraint and bundled into the back of the van.

After, what I later learned was a journey of 125miles I was deposited at a secure mental health unit. By that point I could barely lift my head and was slurring my speech. Meals and weight were monitored and I was medicated. When I refused to take the medication until I was told what the side effects were and what I had been diagnosed with, I was placed in face down restraint by 4 attendants, my pyjamas (which I had been arrested in) were pulled down and injected with it. That happened twice, before I eventually gave up trying to assert my rights as citizen and more importantly as a human being.

I didn't even know why everyone was wearing masks, insisting on spacing or kept talking about something called Covid. I truly thought I had finally lost my mind because when I asked what it all about, people looked at me as aghast and would not explain.

I gained weight, was compliant and was discharged back to prison where I ended up with a criminal record. All gains, but what had been taken from me was any sense that I was a human being. At one point during the various multi-disciplinary safeguarding meetings, my special assigned specialist mental health GP, my social worker and the police could not find me in the system. I had been lost.

On finally returning home to what had once been a place of happy memories I was met by the Probation Service manager with a new set of keys (my door had been broken down (twice), we met at the doorstep by one of my jackets on top of a large box of food. The Police officers who had to keep arresting me when I couldnt get to the Crown Court hearings 8 miles away, had prepared for my return by going into my kitchen, and noticing not a scrap of food was in the house. They bought me basic provisions and left them outside that morning with my coat in case I had to wait outside for the probation office manager.

Both my specialist GP and the Probation service Manager told me that their view was I should never have been sent 'down the criminal route'. Cold comfort after what I had been through as I was, by then, a very severe ME/CFS patient.

At every single stage, my physical condition due to severe ME/CFS was either completely ignored or dismissed. I was discharged from the secure unit to the local mental health service who wrote confirming that my diagnosis was Anorexia Nervosa due to self neglect and responsible for the death of my cats due to neglect., and paranoia. When I telephoned them on the probation supplied telephone to challenge the anorexia nervosa diagnosis and the self neglect they confirmed they would amend the record. I asked them to write to me confirming it. They never did. Apparently, I have an unreasonable fear that the state will harm me.

Why was I without food? The DWP had stopped my benefits as I had failed to respond to review process in time. My care company had returned to contract to social services as they no longer had the staff to fulfil it. They gave me 24hrs notice. By the time of the review, I was too unwell to respond and was alone. The DWP failed in it's duty of care as did Social Services.

Apparently, whatever the circumstances, in the UK people with ME/CFS always do it to themselves, are always unreliable witnesses to their own experience, and never have a voice! And the reason I'm a severe ME/CFS patient? I was referred to the Bath Clinic by my GP under the 2007 NICE Guideline and the Department of Health publication https://www.nhshealthatwork.co.uk/images/library/files/Clinical excellence/CFS_full_guideline.pdf 2006 while I was simultaneously attempting a phased return to work, being managed by my employers Occupational Health Department, with assistance from Access to Work who had already organised for help with getting to work, moving my desk to the ground floor and other adaptations. I was never able to make use of it because after a six week course, I walked unaided and came out needing a wheelchair and that course did not include GET.

I tell my experience with this illness and level of broken trust which exists for one reason only. Maeve did not fall through any gap in service provision, THIS IS the service provision in the UK and always has been!

This patient experience is demonstrated on my medical file as a CFS diagnosis, Secondary Polycythaemia of unknown underlying cause, Anorexia Nervosa due to self neglect and Paranoia and finally a referral for suspected peripheral neuropathy, where no action was taken after one Consultant appointment. I dread to think what else it contains.

I am, in the eyes of the healthcare profession, a typical ME/CFS patient; with no right of complaint if I were a child or the parents of one.

I knew my legal rights, and it made not a jot of difference. Titration of medications and the impact of side effects is now in the 2021 NICE Guideline which is being ignored wholesale.

When I returned to my home in February 2021, Maeve was already on her final pathway through what passes for the right to healthcare of anyone of any age in the UK with ME/CFS.

I was 62 years old when this happened to me.

Now I have been officially diagnosed with paranoia expressed in an unreasonable fear that the state will harm me.

The Final Delivery Plan confirms that this fear is not unreasonable.

Res ipsa loquitur
 
This is pretty much what happened to me back in 2008. By the time I dropped the therapy it was just 45 minute sessions of hearing how much I sucked as a person and why I deserved to be ill, every session they'd give me different advice and when I didn't improve they pretended they had never said it and told me I should have done the opposite of whatever they had said to do last time. Things like "when you are tired you should listen to your body and rest" followed by "when you"re tired you should push through it and walk somewhere". Whichever one I had been doing previously was always the wrong one and also a sign of why I deserved to be ill. At one point I was being told to walk a certain amount per day, but I was banned from going to supermarkets and the bank, because I was already going to those places so they must be making me ill. I was told to walk the same amount as I would have been if I was going there, but I had to walk in the opposite direction only. I asked how I was meant to get food and money and they told me they I had to come up with these kinds of solutions myself and the fact that I was asking that was proof that I was lazy and deserved to be ill.

I noticed a similar dynamic, albeit less extreme when doing psychotherapy. It seemed that the starting point is the assumption that the patient is doing something wrong. Since the therapist cannot know what that is, they can only propose different variations of "this is what you're doing wrong" and the hope is that the patient will consider that point of view and test it and find out for themselves whether that is true or not.

When the therapist is not doing a good job, this can degrade into a dynamic where the therapist inundates the patient with superficial, false prejudices. The patient will feel misunderstood and blamed. The points of view proposed will lack useful insight. Therapy degrades into something stressful with little to no gain.

It helps to be aware that therapists probably don't dislike you personally. They may have inadequate training, be overworked, lack understanding of the problems the patient is dealing with, or have their own problems going on in their lives that make it harder to also confront the problems of another person.

Therapy should encourage playing around with different ways to think about your personal problems. New ways of thinking about a problem can lead to near-optimal solutions. But one shouldn't start from rigid assumptions, like for example that the patient cannot have already found a near-optimal solution for managing their disability. That's how carefully developed pacing strategies and acceptance of one's disability and limitations after a long painful process of personal growth get labelled as maladaptive.
 
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Sadly if you are a child accessing NHS services the proforma is to dig for adverse child experiences, and to keep digging as there must be something there which accounts for things.
There is a very limited treatment approach which still centres on CBT . It's a sausage machine.

A friend of a friend who left CAMHS confirmed this. They had a set process and were not supposed to deviate even if question responses invoked an obvious issue. They left the service appalled that they could not sensitively counsel a child with suicidal tendencies .
Like FII it reframes things to suit a tick box agenda.
 
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