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New book: 'Breaking Free' (PASC: ME and Covid-19)

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Dolphin, May 9, 2022.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  2. Trish

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    It sounds to me very like the Lightning Process, Gupta, Optimum Heath and all those other mind body programs. Not an ounce of evidence for any of it, and lots of anecdotal reports of harm.

    I think there needs to be a really good thorough study of people undergoing these practices, carried out by scientists with no conflicts of interest, and including things like before and after 2 day CPET, activity tracking over at least a couple of years, and cognitive testing. I think ethically it would have to be done with volunteers who understand the risks.
     
  3. hibiscuswahine

    hibiscuswahine Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Totally agree…..What a load of cobblers….sounds like LP/Gupta repackaged. In NZ known as Switch Therapy.

    The journalist has an interesting interpretation of the NICE guidelines after being “enlightened” by Jan :bored:

     
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  4. Jonathan Edwards

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    Actually, for what it's worth, the NICE guidelines say that therapy should be done by a properly trained therapist - sorry Mrs Rothney, you don't count.
     
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  5. Andy

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    TigerLilea Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    What a load of sh*t!! If that is all that it took to recover, none of us would still have ME. We would have been cured years, if not decades, ago.
     
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  7. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yup, LP alright.
     
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    Oh I can think of a few gestures and expressions of my own to use Jan, I don’t need your brainwashed input
     
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    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    my bolding
     
  11. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    from the article
    yeah, because of course the body doesnt heal from infections or wounds when its unsafe, such as in POW camps, or long term imprisonment or long term abuse, or any of the umpteen other massively dangerous situations people find themselves in where they and their bodies are in desperate danger. Nobody would ever survive any of those things, indeed the human race would have died out millions of years ago, longer even, before it even evolved, if safety were necessary for physical healing. What utter, utter drivel
     
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    These people forget that we stay ill for decades. In my life I have had times of profound grief and overwhelming joy; I have been stressed at times and been relaxed and happy at others. Through all this my ME has been affected only by how much I have had to do, with it being the same sitting in my wheelchair at my mother's grave and sitting holding my grandchild for the first time.
     
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  14. Trish

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    I see Paul Garner recommends it. Enough said.
     
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