Post COVID Migraine in a Six Day Cycle

boolybooly

boolybooly

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Hi folks, I have written a blog to log things I have discovered about the migraines I have been getting regularly in a six day cycle since COVID-19 infection.

I think it is due to cyclical inflammation, perhaps driven by a kind of predator prey cycle between my immune system and recurring coronavirus, causing calcium fluctuation linked vasocontriction, possible endothelial inflammation and microthombotic tendencies exacerbating sticky blood, which is an old problem for PWME, causing periodic blood flow difficulties in the brain.

I discovered I had to avoid protein and VitK and manganese in my diet during a migraine phase, plus a few other things.

Frankly it has been a desperate nightmare situation but, 'touch wood', the things I believe I have worked out about it helped me to reduce the severity of the migraines significantly so I wanted to share these in case it helps others with the same condition or provides food for thought for those trying to understand ME and longCOVID.

http://boolyblog.blogspot.com/

I am still trying to understand this situation, dont know how many other people it affects, so please feel free to join the discussion below if you have any ideas or comparable experiences.
 
Thanks for sharing your experience, @boolybooly. I can see you have been very careful to test and retest, so to avoid making assumptions from what may be coincidences between symptoms and food intake. It's good to hear you have managed to find ways to reduce your headache symptoms significantly.

I think the main thing it shows is that we are all different, with individual reactions to foods, supplements and medications, so we can't assume what works for one person will do so for another. For those without relevant knowledge, I'd suggest only doing an elimination diet with the help of a professional dietician if you can find one.
 
Mij said:
@boolybooly did you experience migraines before getting Covid? Do you have aura with your migraines? I'm wondering if you're experiencing "Covid headaches". Could be something totally different.
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Could be. Who knows? I havent heard anyone talking about cycles like this, which is why I am posting about it.

Maybe it is related to COVID headaches, if so then some of these observations could be relevant to others who consider they have those. I think the Mn VitK exacerbation is very curious in that context.

Could be a bit of both. Since it lasts three days it seems outside the bounds of a normal headache. It is certainly inflammatory in nature, while cyclical it is also exacerbated by food and migraine diagnosis runs in my mother's family. Is one sided. Higher severity includes nausea. So it ticks a lot of migraine boxes but is also a bit hard to characterise with standard diagnoses.

I did get recurring headaches before the COVID pandemic, each lasting multiple days. Possibly as a result of an infection around 2017* which caused symptoms suggesting enterovirus. That was a longer cycle of about 2 weeks, as I explained in the blog, COVID shortened the cycle from 14 to 6 days. But if you add COVID to whatever that was maybe you get a kind of hybrid COVID migrache or something. Meaning both could be happening at the same time and exacerbate each other.

Its hard to know about the aura. Only one in three people who get migraines experience aura. Plus I have had visual disturbances such as bows of light around bright or monochromatic light sources since ME onset 1986, which I never used to see before and never been without since. Tingles and l'hermittes are common for me with or without headaches. Its quite hard to know if a tingle is novel migraine aura or more ME!

(*EDIT in fact rereading my blogs I have had headache problems since at least 2015 and I remember having difficulties even earlier which lead to me rearranging my diet so I have a salad every morning and eat my main meal around 12 midday. 2017 was when headaches began to occur in a cycle which was shorter than my previous viral recurrence cycle and appeared to abolish it, for the record.)
 
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When I was still working in the early stages of my ME I used to regularly get migraines at weekends. At the time I assumed it was part of what I now understand as PEM, though I did not have a label for it at that time. However this pattern was more marked when I started working part time (Tue, Wed & Thurs) when my general symptoms lessened by the start of the week and then worsened again by the end of the week.

Though I still get migraines linked to PEM now, I think food may have been a factor to my previously regular migraines. Since stopping work I discovered I am gluten intolerant, and when I am not regularly eating gluten, consuming some will trigger a migraine almost exactly twenty four hours later. However before I eliminated gluten from my diet it made me feel generally yuckie, adding to my general ME symptoms, but I would be much worse as soon as I stopped eating it, getting a migraine and nausea, even vomiting, between 24 and 48 hours after not eating it. In retrospect when I was still working I relied on sandwiches and pasta on work days having no energy to cook, but at week ends I would try to cook from scratch and tried to avoid any processed food stuff. So it is possible that my regular migraines then were related to my gluten cold turkey each Friday to Monday.

Certainly I get far fewer migraines now I avoid gluten (and caffeine and alcohol and some chocolate) completely, though I mentioned above I still get them when in more severe PEM.
 
Peter Trewhitt said:
When I was still working in the early stages of my ME I used to regularly get migraines at weekends. At the time I assumed it was part of what I now understand as PEM, though I did not have a label for it at that time. However this pattern was more marked when I started working part time (Tue, Wed & Thurs) when my general symptoms lessened by the start of the week and then worsened again by the end of the week.

Though I still get migraines linked to PEM now, I think food may have been a factor to my previously regular migraines. Since stopping work I discovered I am gluten intolerant, and when I am not regularly eating gluten, consuming some will trigger a migraine almost exactly twenty four hours later. However before I eliminated gluten from my diet it made me feel generally yuckie, adding to my general ME symptoms, but I would be much worse as soon as I stopped eating it, getting a migraine and nausea, even vomiting, between 24 and 48 hours after not eating it. In retrospect when I was still working I relied on sandwiches and pasta on work days having no energy to cook, but at week ends I would try to cook from scratch and tried to avoid any processed food stuff. So it is possible that my regular migraines then were related to my gluten cold turkey each Friday to Monday.

Certainly I get far fewer migraines now I avoid gluten (and caffeine and alcohol and some chocolate) completely, though I mentioned above I still get them when in more severe PEM.
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Maybe something in your immune system was reacting to the gluten and causing a delayed headache.

I notice that I now get headaches at the end of an identifiable immune crisis.

There is a review paper here suggesting that having a headache predicts a better survival rate for COVID.
Gallardo & Shapiro "The relationship of headache as a symptom to COVID-19 survival: A systematic review and meta-analysis of survival of 43,169 inpatients with COVID-19."
https://headachejournal.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/head.14376
Conclusion: Headache among patients with COVID-19 presenting to hospitals may be a marker of host processes which enhance COVID-19 survival.
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Which indicates helpful immune activity of some kind associated with a COVID headache.
 
I probably should have said in my last post that I have been excluding gluten for several years now (mentioned in my blog), so that is not involved in my current problems.

I just wanted to let people know I have updated my blog about this to share some good news subsequent to a helpful development in my management of my condition based on an observation of one cycle where I had no migraine pain.

I checked my food diary, replicated the cycle and then deduced and verified that taking a dose of lysine just before or during the migraine phase is helpful in reducing severity. I think it is because lysine EDIT- assists calcium transport, which as I discussed in my previous blog, may help reduce vasocontriction exacerbated by calcium, by transporting calcium between blood and cells of different tissues, distributing Ca and assisting homeostasis. FYI

https://boolyblog.blogspot.com/2023/11/lysine-dose-may-reduce-migraine.html
 
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OK this is probably the best place to add this, I want to log recently observed phemonena. I may blog it later if it would be potentially useful for others. Writing and discussing here helps think about that.

Bottom line, recently had two weeks of heavy phantosmia following a strange relatively severe 3 day headache with cutting pains in my head.

It started mild in the first phase and was very mild in the second day i.e. a lull, then much more severe on the third day.

These two phases I have observed before and think of as vasocontrictive and inflammatory. They were previously apart like this over three days every three days, making a six day cycle and steps I took reduced severity and they had begun to coalesce into one day. I hypothesise this is something to do with a recurring covid infection producing spike proteins blocking ACEII receptor hence the vasoconstriction phase and then an immune clean up causing inflammation and microthrombotic tendency causing the second phase of more severe migraine like headache.

This recent episode was much more severe all of a sudden and I think it was the same kind of infection but possibly a major recurrence or more likely reinfection, possibly with a new variant hence the much stronger inflammatory phase and long drawn out 2 week recovery phase. The opportunity for infection is low as I am housebound but the timing followed a Waitrose delivery, which would match given a few days incubation and the "rough" day I recorded in my diary before the first headachey day.

During recovery I had intriguing phantosmia of a pungent chemical like leaking refrigerant, which appears not to be due to any external phenomenon and I have had it before during previous suspected COVID infections e.g. omicron. I think it is likely to be entirely due to infection of the upper respiratory tract as it is a known COVID symptom.

It took two weeks for the phantosmia to clear, its end was marked by heavy phlegm consistent with a URT immune response. My previously regular inflammatory cycle seems to have been upended by this and is currently unpredictable, though there is some hope it is a bit longer and has been stretched to 9 days instead of 6, which is OK but I feel more fragile in the less headachey phase at the moment and do not dare have much protein, as this can cause or exacerbate headaches.

My conclusion is there is likely to be a new wave of COVID infection going around out there and possibly a new variant and I have just had it.
 
Update on the update, the recovery phase has settled into a longer than usual period without migraines.

I did get PEM after driving 1mile to post my postal ballot and then being intercepted for chats by both my neighbours which is unusual to say the least as I usually chat to them around once a month and for them both to buttonhole me on the same day I venture out for the first time in a year is as if the universe were conspiring to give me PEM, anyway it succeeded and I had a headachey day with what I call 'cutting pains' in my head and am still recovering three days later. It was like the infection pain above and not like the typical migraine which is why I say inflammatory related migraines have been less evident over the last couple of weeks or have changed character.

This is a welcome change. It has happened before when I get an infection plus a recurrence of one or all of my other passenger viruses. In this case I noticed Bornholm symptoms (indicating enterovirus activity) plus prodrome (of HSV) all at the same time as the apparent infection. So goodness only knows what was going on in there but it felt like a multi-whammy, which I have had before and the outcome is a stronger than usual immune stimulus and it changes things but what next is hard to predict. Its like a dice throw. Wish me luck!

I think another contributor to my less headachey situation has been Nattokinase. I take 2500FUx1 daily and judging from my experiments & diary it seems to take about two weeks regular dose to kick in and then it reduces migraine severity for COVID related headaches in the inflammatory phase, possibly by reducing thrombogenicity. I just thought I would mention it as I am now convinced enough it is helping to be taking it regularly. So that may be another factor.
 
boolybooly said:
My conclusion is there is likely to be a new wave of COVID infection going around out there and possibly a new variant and I have just had it.
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Interestingly news media are saying there is a new COVID variant and waves of infection rising this summer.

Stay at home plea issued over new Covid wave as hospital admissions rise
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/stay-home-plea-issued-over-29450430

Expert's warning as hay fever symptoms are mistaken for new Covid variant
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/experts-warning-hay-fever-symptoms-29493133

New FLiRT and LB.1 Covid variant symptoms as experts speak out
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/new-flirt-lb1-covid-variant-29499810
 
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Well... the cycle of migraine bouts which inspired the OP seems to have broken, that is the good news.

I think this is mostly due to a new infection becoming established as the dominant recurring virus of my collection, as I now have a cycle of URT (upper respiratory tract) infection with runny nose, cough, sneezes, blocked nose, fluey feeling, bouts of asthmatic wheeze etc instead of migraine. I think this is possibly a new variant of covid and anyway is something which prefers to reproduce in URT tissues. I notice a lot of people sounding nasal on the TV so whatever it is it seems like it is going around. I expect they are getting it as a single episode rather than recurring in a cycle as I tend to do. I have had similar before around the swine flu epidemic in 2009, I had a recurring URT virus for several years, possibly swine flu, who nose?! :whistle:

I do still get hints of migraine but if I stick to the remedies which I found helpful (lysine daily, NAC alternate days, doubled nattokinase to 2x2500FU capsules taken in the evening plus daily linseed oil and turmeric extract and extra magnesium bisglycinate if needed, VitD in winter), they do not develope into prolonged painful episodes. I suspect the migraines would return if I did not continue to take these things. I also still have to be very careful what I eat in particular not too much protein.

Its a bit like riding a monocycle on a tightrope, just not sufficiently visually appealing to take it to Edinburgh (jk).
 
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boolybooly said:
I am still trying to understand this situation, dont know how many other people it affects, so please feel free to join the discussion below if you have any ideas or comparable experiences.
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I also have migraines on what appears to be normally roughly a weekly a cycle (three days on, some days off), but have managed to mitigate it somewhat by twice-daily Epsom salt footbaths (oral magnesium doesn't seem to do anything for me, possibly for reasons of poor GI absorption). Severity has also improved after switching to a wholefood plant-based diet, though I continue to have to avoid a whole ton of foods that are migraine triggers, including spices and other high-flavour things.

Interesting to read what you said about Mg/Ca! I wish I understood enough about biology to follow your arguments properly (even though you write extremely clearly). Just wanted you to know that you're not the only person with this pattern. I've always thought it weird how my migraines seem to take days to build up, days to experience, and then back to square one, as though some biological process has discharged. I thought it would make more sense to have a lesser migraine every day - which is why I also find your idea of a predator/prey cycle interesting.
 
Thanks for posting Sasha and for reading. :) It is comforting to know its not just me but sorry to hear you have similar migraines of course and for the pain you also suffer :hug: for which I offer my commiserations.

I ramble, sorry, confuse myself more often than not, so I try not to be too verbose, just attempting to make sense of what is happening by writing down "observations & deductions" like my science teacher taught me, for others to read which helps me think out loud if you see what I mean and raise my game and be hopeful rather than confused and helpless. Usually involves quite a lot of googling.

Glad you have found a foot spa Epsom salt (MgSO4) treatment which helps. I have a big bag of that in my bathroom! Will bear that in mind. I found Kirkman buffered Mg bisglycinate effective but still have to be careful not to trigger the squits if I take too much, also muscle cramps tell me when I dont have enough calcium.

One thing I havent mentioned here btw but did on my blog was taking omega 3s helps. I take a big dose of linseed oil daily along with turmeric and the lysine.

Yes the cyclical aspect deserves an explanation. I am just guessing what it might be of course but as long as rough ideas like predator/prey (immune/virome) and Mg/Ca balance help one make choices which improve the situation and are not contradicted by the facts, then they are useful until a better idea comes along, is the way I look at it.

To update with a progress report and some musing - I have just had a few migrainey days followed by another URT infection episode, same symptoms as the others which is why IMHO it is likely to be recurrent. I dont know what is going on there but if I were to guess I would say one variant/virus was having a go causing migraine and then the more recent variant/virus had a bigger go and caused a major immune stimulus. The migraines seem to be absent while my nose is running and I am sneezing, also running a bit of a temperature 37.7°C in the armpit, with raw throat preceding, so I assume it is a virus which is recurring as I have had other viruses which definitely recur as I had repeat PCR tests come back +ve over many years.

When I try to understand why my immune system is not suppressing viruses properly there is no science on this but I had EBV 4 years before ME and recurrent infection started and I note that EBV can infect memory B cells, which is the very cell type which is supposed to remember previous infections and provide a suppressive response. So conjecture leads me to wonder whether that is the root of my problem i.e I wonder whether EBV has knobbled my memory B cells in some way and made them less effective, or whether my immune response to EBV is hampering my memory B cells' function.
 
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Update, I managed to get away from migraine bouts by a regime of linseed oil, turmeric and lysine supplements.

So naturally Murphy's lawyers made sure I caught another virus which causes worse brain fog, asthma, sneezing, runny nose, constipation and heart arrhythmia as well as weaker than usual arms on top of my usual ME fog and fatigue.

This is running in a recurring cycle like my other viruses but seems to be dominating the other viruses in terms of symptoms. I am very sensitive to cold with it but conversely staying very warm is helpful, though I have to keep my thermostat at 28°C. Any less and my nose starts up. I also have to sleep with a not too hot water bottle under my pillow.

I was using salbutamol quite a lot at one point for the asthma which I later found out can have a side effect of reducing potassium.

My guess is this is one of the viruses going around this winter rather than a previous virus which has come back and the problems with gut stopping, sneezing with runny nose, heart arrhythmia and asthma make me suspect RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) which was mentioned in the press but I would be happy to take advice on that.

Anyway the heart arrhythmia (HA) has at times been quite scarey. To support my heart I have been trying supplements of sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc and copper. Currently copper seems to be having the best effect followed by calcium and potassium.

Am also trying to take plenty of VitD which has an anti-inflamatory effect with RSV and trying ginseng which is dubiously reputed to hamper RSV replication.

"Vitamin D Decreases Respiratory Syncytial Virus Induction of NF-κB–Linked Chemokines and Cytokines in Airway Epithelium While Maintaining the Antiviral State"
https://journals.aai.org/jimmunol/a...tamin-D-Decreases-Respiratory-Syncytial-Virus
 
Update. Hop tea is something else which seems to help reduce heart arrhythmia (HA).

More food diary detective work. I noticed a day whan I had less HA and looked at the food I had that day and the day before. Tested each one individually and it seemed that Heineken 0% was the key factor which was repeatedly followed by an improvement in HA. I then looked at the ingredients for 0% and noticed it contains hop extract. Since I keep hops as a herb for teas I tried chewing some hops then hop tea and both seemed to be beneficial in the same way.

So I am taking hop tea which is reputed to have a mild sedative effect. It may be that this mild sedation is helping to reduce premature starts to the heart beat, something in it is keeping my heartbeat steadier anyway.
 
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