Radiation Model for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Announced by the National CFIDS Foundation 2019

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NEEDHAM, Mass., May 20, 2019 /PRNewswire/ --The National CFIDS Foundation, of Needham, Massachusetts, has provided details regarding its radiation model for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, a disease that affects millions in the United States. According to Alan Cocchetto, Medical Director for the National CFIDS Foundation, "Our latest model has now identified two key compounds, known as hydroperoxides, that appear to result from cellular injury due to radiation exposure. We believe this finding is of critical importance to the disease process that is present in our patients."

The National CFIDS Foundation identified cardiolipin hydroperoxides as the first key target that acts to disrupt proper functioning of the mitochondria, the energy factory within the cell. The second target, phosphatidylserine hydroperoxides, acts to disrupt red blood cell function resulting in altered tissue oxygenation. Basically, these two hydroperoxides act in concert as cellular toxicants to adversely affect normal cell function.
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...-the-national-cfids-foundation-300853423.html

makes a change from the 'fear avoidance model'
 
Can anyone make sense of what data they used to support this model?

I had a quick look at their website and the research section seems to be a literature search for anything connecting radiation exposure to symptoms that appear on any ME definition. For example one paper suggested prolonged low dose exposure among workers led to cognitive symptoms.

I admit I only took a cursory look. Does anyone have the energy to dig further? I couldn't find links to any published research the organisation has funded on radiation in ME.
 
I dropped it a long time ago.

Trish said:
Can anyone make sense of what data they used to support this model?

I had a quick look at their website and the research section seems to be a literature search for anything connecting radiation exposure to symptoms that appear on any ME definition. For example one paper suggested prolonged low dose exposure among workers led to cognitive symptoms.

I admit I only took a cursory look. Does anyone have the energy to dig further? I couldn't find links to any published research the organisation has funded on radiation in ME.
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Alvin said:
If this were true at least some of us would have ended up with superpowers [/sarcasm]

Unfortunately since ME does not give us superpowers i have trouble accepting this as the disease trigger
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Well, radiation could certainly be the culprit to some mutations that could have resulted in a few deficiencies, such as CFS. I, however, find this to be irrelevant due to the fact that many would have suffered of CFS in, for instance, Europe, where I live in. That is, yet, not the case for I dont think that 10% of the European population suffer from ME/CFS. Even virus outbreaks in history have most likely resulted in more ME/CFS patients than radiation would have. Only look at the Royal Free Hospital outbreak in the UK and know that my words are true. A radiation or similar chemical processes, rays or substances would have, theoretically, resulted in more than just CFS and countries like Vietnam or Iraq are quite good examples for what the consequences can be. Suggesting radiation as a possible cause of ME/CFS is not a bad idea, but if anyone comes in swinging hypothesis like that than they better have proof. I must say, though, it is certainly better than the fear avoidance hypothesis, which, I assume, is a hypothesis that suggests a psychological contribution to ME/CFS.
 
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There is also the Chornobyl accident just outside of Kyiv in Ukraine. Wouldn't there be lots of ME as a result? From what I know there are lots and lots of cancers.

The article does mention the nuclear accident, but with a vague reference to folks getting chronic fatigue syndrome. NO statistics are given.
 
Perrier said:
There is also the Chornobyl accident just outside of Kyiv in Ukraine. Wouldn't there be lots of ME as a result? From what I know there are lots and lots of cancers.

The article does mention the nuclear accident, but with a vague reference to folks getting chronic fatigue syndrome. NO statistics are given.
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Unfortunately the Psycho brigade have already jumped in.......

Radiophobia: long-term psychological consequences of Chernobyl.

The primary health effect of Chernobyl has been widespread psychological distress in liquidators (workers brought in for cleanup), evacuees, residents of contaminated areas, and residents of adjacent noncontaminated areas. Several psychoneurological syndromes characterized by multiple unexplained physical symptoms including fatigue, sleep and mood disturbances, impaired memory and concentration, and muscle and/or joint pain have been reported in the Russian literature. These syndromes, which resemble chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, are probably not due to direct effects of radiation because they do not appear to be dose related to radiation exposure and because they occur in areas of both high and low contamination.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11873498
 
Dudden said:
Is this some kind of joke?
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You can't reason people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into. Turns out medical professionals are just as gullible and prone to bias about their own profession as any of us are. In some cases even more so.

It's really sobering, and explains a lot about why medicine still has huge blind spots where millions of lives get ruined.
 
Armed Forces Radiobiology Unit, Bethesda, eh? First it was Fort Detrick, Frederick, Maryland. Now this. There is a pattern
 
Dudden said:
Well, radiation could certainly be the culprit to some mutations that could have resulted in a few deficiencies, such as CFS. I, however, find this to be irrelevant due to the fact that many would have suffered of CFS in, for instance, Europe, where I live in. That is, yet, not the case for I dont think that 10% of the European population suffer from ME/CFS. Even virus outbreaks in history have most likely resulted in more ME/CFS patients than radiation would have. Only look at the Royal Free Hospital outbreak in the UK and know that my words are true. A radiation or similar chemical processes, rays or substances would have, theoretically, resulted in more than just CFS and countries like Vietnam or Iraq are quite good examples for what the consequences can be. Suggesting radiation as a possible cause of ME/CFS is not a bad idea, but if anyone comes in swinging hypothesis like that than they better have proof. I must say, though, it is certainly better than the fear avoidance hypothesis, which, I assume, is a hypothesis that suggests a psychological contribution to ME/CFS.
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If someone has radiation induced symptoms then they have radiation sickness and not ME. Unless we are now thinking that people with viral triggers had radioactive viral triggers.
We don't say someone who has a cough automatically has COPD, they might but if they have allergies, asthma, pneumonia and so on we would identify what they really have.
A symptom is not a disease.

rvallee said:
You can't reason people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into.
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I love this. Hope you don't mind if i steal it
 
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