Radio 4 and 5 Live Put IAPT Under The Microscope - Nov 13 2019

[Sly Saint]

Missed this but the programs are still available.

tomorrow, Wednesday, November 13th the BBC begins broadcasting its’ investigation into IAPT on the radio, with much more recorded. There is a summary below:

It really is time to talk about IAPT

www.survivingwork.org



Sometimes a problem shared is not a problem halved. When you really ask people what they think about something, and really listen to what they say, things can get dark and dirty. And never more the case than if you ask people about the UK’s largest mental health service, Increased Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT).



Tomorrow turns out to be a day for talking about IAPT. Really talking about it rather than rolling out another Royal or playing the neurolinguistic game of positivity ping pong.



There will be a number of discussions tomorrow 13 November on BBC Radio 5 Live about worker and user experiences of IAPT. You can engage with the debate by going to the links below.

The conversation begins on Radio 5 Live in the early hours tomorrow, and will include a discussion on the Emma Barnett Show at 10am. Also tomorrow BBC Radio 4’s You and Yours will be looking into IAPT – the show goes out live at 12.18-12.57 including Surviving Work, well me, talking about our current IAPT survey and thinking about whether its possible to reclaim the mental health turf and establish a genuinely decent model of care.

full details here
http://www.cbtwatch.com/radio-4-and-5-live-put-iapt-under-the-microscope/
eta:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000b5wh (Nicky Campbell)
starts around 07.15
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000b5wk (Emma Barnett)
starts around 42.30

eta3: I think Nicky Campbells first wife had ME(?) I wonder if he'd do a show about IAPT services expanding into so called MUS, and the inclusion of ME.

eta4; couldn't find anything on the You and yours program.

 

[rvallee]

It’s about unpacking the data asking why 71% of people working in the service reported burnout, and 67% live with depression or anxiety.

I'm not really sure how that's even possible. How can anything be this much of a mess? With all this excessive funding and water-carrying by authorities and PR by the SMC and lowering the bar several storeys beneath ground level. It's almost spectacular, like watching not A Hindenburg but a mass migration of Hindenburgs going through synchronized self-immolation.

Though it's very likely that those numbers for depression and anxiety are precisely the BS at the heart of the BPS model, of basically calling any and every human bodily function a clear and unmistakable sign of a mental disorder leading to catastrophic self-destruction, or something like that. One fart too many and, presto, diagnosis of virulent explosive anxious depression.

Weird how basing something this big on a foundation that failed every test is a bad idea. Uh. Really weird. It's almost as if cheating is bad because it has consequences and pushing something over the starting line is very far from it making it to the finish line. There was much joy at publishing PACE through but what the BPS folks didn't realize is that all it accomplished was loading the balloons of hot air with explosive gas. Splendid job, Simon.

 

[Andy]

THE IAPT SURVEY RESULTS

Talking about IAPT should come with a health warning. Whether you’re a therapist, a service user or just an MP on the campaign trail really talking about mental health services involves opening up a Pandora’s box with all the professional and personal consequences this entails.

So it is with the following qualifier that we’re sending you some preliminary results of the IAPT Survey carried out in preparation for today’s discussion on BBC5Live about what’s happening in services.

https://survivingwork.org/5241-2/ - warning, they've used a hideous (in my opinion) colour scheme for the web page.

 

[Sly Saint]

 

[JemPD]

At the end of the survey, revealing all the flaws... they then contradict themselves by 67% of them saying the think they are providing good care!

 

[rvallee]

At the end of the survey, revealing all the flaws... they then contradict themselves by 67% of them saying the think they are providing good care!

Well, that's the PACE model: make shit up, break everything, provide no benefits whatsoever, give yourself a perfect grade. That's just the BPS wayTM.