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I'm beside myself, what on earth is the point of my trying to manage without people coming in to help, & going to all the trouble of wiping my groceries..... if well meaning but foolish people are going to put me at risk by doing things like that. That's 2 people this week who have ruined my isolating policy. for goodness sake! :cry: now it's another anxious wait for a wk to find out if he's infected me.
 
JemPD said:
I sprayed loads of very fine mist water spray all through the hall which just falls immediately to the floor, with the hope that whatever was in the air is now on the floor… which I can at least wipe. good grief what a silly thing for him to have done!
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For over 25 years I've blocked up my letter box and have a mail box on the side of the house or beside the front garden gates (whichever one works according to the property I've lived in). Originally I did this because I had a dog that attacked the mail, but still prefer this arrangement even though I now only have cats. Sometimes this frustrates delivery people or neighbours delivering information leaflets to my house because they haven't noticed the mailbox, but I'm not going to change for their sakes. I rent my house, otherwise I would just put in a front door without a letter box!
 
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JemPD said:
You wont BELIEVE what the Ocado delivery driver just did.... I suppose he thought was being helpful...
After telling him on phone that I am vulnerable so will leave door closed & where to leave the various items.... Leaving most of it in back garden because I disabled cant get it all in at once
He wanted to tell me he had helpfully covered up the stuff in the back garden so it wouldn't get wet if it rained.... that was thoughtful of him, but then so guess what he did?....

He opened the letterbox & shouted through it to tell me!!!!
$*****%! IDIOT!!!!....:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop: :mad: yelling a lovely cloud of his exhale vapour into my house. Thanks very much, what was the point of you not handing me the bags or me opening the door & him just putting them over the threshold? Do people think that distancing is about touch?

I sprayed loads of very fine mist water spray all through the hall which just falls immediately to the floor, with the hope that whatever was in the air is now on the floor… which I can at least wipe. good grief what a silly thing for him to have done!
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We need delivery drivers to at least be wearing face masks - so hoping this will start happening in western countries.
 
There was a woman delivering brochures about help during the pandemic from the parish council this afternoon. She was walking around putting them through peoples letterboxes and handing them to any one out side their house. In front of my front door is a large bright orange trug with Post and Parcels written on it (where the postie puts my mail), but no, she ignores that and pushes it through my letterbox.
 
Wondering about UV and viruses.

so first whether UV is effective in combatting viruses?

and then whether sunlight might be significant in combatting viruses?

and then a specific example: I have a stainless steel kitchen bench which is in full sun (open window) for 6hrs a day. Is this likely to have any effect other than better drying?

let me know if this is answered elsewhere.
 
Subtropical Island said:
Wondering about UV and viruses.

so first whether UV is effective in combatting viruses?

and then whether sunlight might be significant in combatting viruses?

and then a specific example: I have a stainless steel kitchen bench which is in full sun (open window) for 6hrs a day. Is this likely to have any effect other than better drying?

let me know if this is answered elsewhere.
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I am also eager to know if sunlight 'cleans' items. Here in Montreal, spring is just starting to show her lovely face.
 
Subtropical Island said:
Wondering about UV and viruses.

so first whether UV is effective in combatting viruses?

and then whether sunlight might be significant in combatting viruses?

and then a specific example: I have a stainless steel kitchen bench which is in full sun (open window) for 6hrs a day. Is this likely to have any effect other than better drying?

let me know if this is answered elsewhere.
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yes i'd like to know that too
 
Sean said:
UV (and fresh air) definitely helps general disinfection, but how much it does for this particular virus is the question.
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All this means that using sunlight to disinfect surfaces is extremely problematic.

First of all, no one knows how long it takes to deactivate Covid-19 with sunlight, or what strength is needed. And even if they did, the amount of UV in sunlight varies depending on the time of day, the weather, the season, and where in the world you live – especially which latitude – so this wouldn’t be a reliable way to kill the virus. "

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200327-can-you-kill-coronavirus-with-uv-light
 
Invisible Woman said:
Couldn't read the whole article as you have to subscribe, says he or his team visited the home of an infected but didn't find live virus on any surfaces.

It's all very well but the flippin' thing is definitely spreading somehow. What's his explanation for the spread then?
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It seems to me that some in the medical profession don't get basic notions of risk. He could be right but by the sounds of it he doesn't have a strong evidence base for his beliefs. If he is wrong and we followed his advice could lead to increased virus spread; if he is right then not following his advice leads to inconvenience in shopping. Given the relative impacts due to the risks and huge uncertainty it seems sensible to ignore his advice.

It is obviously good to explore transmission mechanisms but jumping to conclusions based on little evidence just seems dangerous.
 
Adrian said:
It is obviously good to explore transmission mechanisms but jumping to conclusions based on little evidence just seems dangerous.
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Yep. I find such public speculation unhelpful and irresponsible at the minute.

Since Friday we've started hearing that if people in the UK don't abide by the rules then they'll ban everyone from going out for exercise. Just because some, who think they're invulnerable, insist on flouting them.

I'm alright. I've got a decent garden. What about folk in the cities cooped up with kids in not very big flats?

Unless people have solid, provable facts then I do wish they'd stop saying things that will encourage the selfish and reckless to carry on being selfish and reckless.
 
An infectious disease doctor said recently that the virus can (minimally) spread through vents in apartment buildings, and to keep a window open. This was a response to someone asking if high winds could spread outside, even with a 2 metre distance.
 
Someone has nicked my smoked salmon & green beans!:mad:

I just took delivery of some shopping... it was left in my front porch - some milk, smoked salmon (a favourite treat) & some green beans. I saw them in his basket as he walked up to the door. In the time it took me to get downstairs & give it a minute for his breath to be blown away, when I opened the door to bring it in the salmon & beans were gone :emoji_angry: I hope they were starving, if not I hope what goes around comes around.

ETA realised they took my oranges too... that I AM cross about!
 
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