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The Case of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome-Myalgic Encephalomyelitis in Handbook of Research Methods in Health Psychology, 2020, Jason et al

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Dolphin, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The final sentences in the conclusion read:
     
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  3. Andy

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    Now surely that is two communities?

    Not helped by researchers dividing us into ME and CFS groups.
     
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    And creating multitudes of names, definitions and diagnostic criteria. Patients didn't create the ridiculous Oxford definition, or decide the Fukuda criteria would make PEM optional. Patients didn't invent the multiple names of the illness.

    If doctors create multiple different criteria and names, of course patients will be divided over which one describes their condition.

    I think that sounds too much like patient blaming. It's none of our making that we are stuck in this ridiculous situation.
     
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    When a group of self proclaimed experts come along and change the definition and name of a disease at the same time so that people already diagnosed no longer fit the criteria you are bound to have more than one group.

    When SW and mates set up CFS in the UK, they were selecting for a new illness which bore little relationship with the original ME. To say they were the same thing was such a terrible thing to do that no one can believe it happened so it is no wonder the result was a mess.

    It was like saying that migraine was now a pain in the knee.
     
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    From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks

     
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    Or one community for 'ME and CFS'.

    I thought it was ambiguous on this point.... but that could create another reason for division!
     
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    So there is ME, CFS, ME/CFS, ME & CFS, so we're up to four different communities so far! ;)
     
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  9. Andy

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    Don't forget CFS/ME. So anywhere between one and five different communities have got to stop being difficult and agree with each other what we should call our illness. It's not as if we have anything better to do with our time. ;)
     
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    Don't forget the baby in the family, SEID.
     
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