The ELAROS NHS digital system for patient/clinician digital sharing questionnaire data, includes Yorkshire Rehab. Scale and Open-OH app

MrMagoo said:
Visible Free Version for example, along with Apple health for heart, steps, or a free app like bearable for symptoms etc and wearable = pre-set reports.
This stuff is already out there and in use. As is the hodgepodge lodge of leaflets they’ve gleaned from the top Google results for “fatigue advice”

They have taken the wheel, and re-invented it as something a bit less smooth.
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In a package in which no one should trust that the information will not be misused.

It will be misused, guaranteed. In secret, behind closed doors.
 
Does anyone have a link for ELAROS' specific ME involvement being part funded by the DWP? Thanks.

One link -

'Press release'

£1.5 Million investment to improve in-work health services as part of government drive to tackle inactivity​

  • Recognising the need for transformative changes in the OH market, the DWP/DHSC Joint Work and Health Directorate launched the dedicated ‘Fund to Stimulate Innovation in Occupational Health’ in January 2023 to stimulate innovation and improve service delivery models through the effective use of technology.

  • Wellics Ltd, Kinseed Limited, Elaros 24/7 Limited, Latus Health Ltd and Armour Labs Ltd are all participating in the latest stage of the Innovation Fund.

www.gov.uk

£1.5 Million investment to improve in-work health services as part of government drive to tackle inactivity

Reforms to occupational health services will be shaped through a £1.5m innovation fund, through Innovate UK's Small Business Research Initiative (SBRI), as the government continues its drive to tackle in work sickness and boost economic activity using new technology and artificial intelligence.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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Suffolkres said:

Latest News - NHS Health at Work Network

Latest NHS Health at work news
www.nhshealthatwork.co.uk www.nhshealthatwork.co.uk
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Competition overview - SBRI: Increasing access to and capacity in Occupational Health: Phase 1 - Innovation Funding Service

apply-for-innovation-funding.service.gov.uk apply-for-innovation-funding.service.gov.uk

31st January 2024 so Elaros then need to chase new opportunities..... and Suffolk and MEA are perfect hunting ground through the decision to go to Procurement March 2024....

Wasps and honey pot come to mind....
 
Suffolkres said:
MEA Tyson PROMS also sharing that same pot.
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Do you have a direct link to public information about funding of the MEA Tyson PROMs project in this phase of getting it implemented on the ELAROS apps and in the NHS clinics?

All we've seen so far is the £90,000 from MEA funds to develop the materials. Since that's been going for some time and there were several people involved who were presumaby paid, I'm guessing that funding has run out.

Who is paying Tyson to work on the next stage of implementation? She is not listed as MEA staff, but is presumably being paid by somebody.
 
Trish said:
Do you have a direct link to public information about funding of the MEA Tyson PROMs project in this phase of getting it implemented on the ELAROS apps and in the NHS clinics?

All we've seen so far is the £90,000 from MEA funds to develop the materials. Since that's been going for some time and there were several people involved who were presumaby paid, I'm guessing that funding has run out.

Who is paying Tyson to work on the next stage of implementation? She is not listed as MEA staff, but is presumably being paid by somebody.
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Will DM you.
 
This sounds really worrying. Apart from anything else, the phone would presumably be tracking people's movements.

Why are the MEA colluding with it? And have they told their members? If people understood the implications of this, many of them would be out of the door straight away.

It almost looks as if someone's working to sabotage the charity.
 
Lou B Lou said:
Does anyone have a link for ELAROS' specific ME involvement being part funded by the DWP? Thanks.

One link -

'Press release'

£1.5 Million investment to improve in-work health services as part of government drive to tackle inactivity​

  • Recognising the need for transformative changes in the OH market, the DWP/DHSC Joint Work and Health Directorate launched the dedicated ‘Fund to Stimulate Innovation in Occupational Health’ in January 2023 to stimulate innovation and improve service delivery models through the effective use of technology.

  • Wellics Ltd, Kinseed Limited, Elaros 24/7 Limited, Latus Health Ltd and Armour Labs Ltd are all participating in the latest stage of the Innovation Fund.

www.gov.uk

£1.5 Million investment to improve in-work health services as part of government drive to tackle inactivity

Reforms to occupational health services will be shaped through a £1.5m innovation fund, through Innovate UK's Small Business Research Initiative (SBRI), as the government continues its drive to tackle in work sickness and boost economic activity using new technology and artificial intelligence.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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Wow. This is the modern equivalent of investing in rain dancers instead of water infrastructure to deal with chronic droughts. It has zero chance of achieving any of what they claim to, absolutely ridiculous nonsense. It may look like they're saving a bundle, but they're actually spending money to make the problem even more expensive and harmful.

And while they're admitting it's largely due to Long Covid, they're straight up lying about it, there is zero evidence supporting this, nothing but assertions that completely ignore reality:
Before the pandemic, inactivity in the UK had fallen by over 850,000 and while it currently remains lower than G7, EU and OECD averages, many people including those from younger generations are out of work due to long term sickness, in large part been driven by mental health conditions like depression and anxiety.
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I mentioned yesterday the concept of a Glonzo issue, when uninformed fools sometimes recognize the impact of a problem, say, drought, but completely misattribute its cause and solution, such as needing people to perform rain dances to appease the gods, because the drought can only be happening because the gods are angry.

This is a total Glonzo issue. They recognize the problem, but attribute it to some alternative nonsense. There is zero difference between this and people who complain about more frequent heat waves, caused by climate change, but attribute it to weather modification using laser satellites, or whatever. It's also the same thing as people who looked at the COVID pandemic deaths, and decided that, yes, those people died, but they died because of the vaccines, not the virus.

It's the same thing, different prongs of the same political horseshoe, where the extremes may have a different angle, but converge on the same nonsense. On one side, the conspiracy fantasy crowds. On the other, the, medical profession? That can't be right. But it is.

They are straight up lying about this, those lies are supported by the medical bodies and public health authorities. And spending money based on lies. Excused by more lies. Lies and corruption every-freaking-where.
 
Then as they offered their Feb seminar, I have suggested those within S4ME with relevant hats, ask for the Feb recording...?
PROFESSORs Jonathan Edwards and perhaps David Tuller, Professor Brian Hughes would be a good S4ME start?
CureME folk? Eliana Caroline Luis LSHTM?
Keith Geraghty ..?


'This webinar followed our highly successful Building a Long COVID Service Legacy series, which has helped clinical practitioners and commissioners explore innovative case studies and digital tools to enhance condition-specific and integrated long-term condition (LTC) services.

The session was particularly valuable for clinicians, researchers, and commissioners working in ME/CFS services, as well as those in Long COVID care looking to expand their service offering to include ME/CFS support.

For access to the recording of the webinar, along with the slides, please get in contact with us at:
C19-YRS@elaros.com

We look forward to continuing these important conversations and driving innovation in digital health solutions for ME/CFS and Long COVID services.'
 
I’m sorry I’m so foggy, did we ever get clarity on the difference between the two apps?
I think I was part of the early assumptions that all mentions of Elaros/MEA “not endorsing” but publicising beta test of app/Tyson & PROMs were one app.
So there are two apps?
We were basically right in the first instance weren’t we? There’s a whole clusterfudge happening.
 
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