The Recovery Channel, Rachel Whitfield and Paul Garner

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I find Rachel Whitfield rather hard work to watch and listen to .... rather over excitable. Her entire demeanor comes across as 'genuinely wide-eyed, naturally excited and oh so sincere' ...

I would think hardly any of the viewers take it on board that Rachel's video communications are those of a highly skilled professional NLP Master with particular skills in Influencing. Her communication style and words are honed to draw in viewers and to Influence.

Those flappy hands reflect the NLP/Waking Hypnosis method of distracting the viewer from the fact that they are being pulled in and 'worked'.

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MrMagoo said:
Well yeah, imagine thinking you might have long Covid. Luckily she recovered in about 6 months.
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I ate pork belly canned beans for six months during my Covid recovery because I couldn't stand or walk very long.

Might put out a food-centric documentary on my long Covid recovery on the Recovery Channel. The Mij and Beans Story. Will add a plot twist at the end that I didn't recover from PEM or ME/CFS.
 
Lou B Lou said:
The function of the COFFI Consumer Advisory Committee, according to Rachel Whitfield.

Seminar, on Youtube 29/11/2024

'COFFI Consumer Dialogue "Post-exertional malaise and setbacks in chronic fatigue conditions'
'Cutting Edge Neuroscience'

Rachel Whitfield:

“Coffi is a group of international scientists, like some of the best scientists in the world that are collaborating around post infectious uh fatigue and other symptoms, and they've been doing it for 10 years.
Some of the Best Scientists International Collaborating at COFFI

And the consumer arm is a group of people

Patients working with scientists

with lived experience that have got together and our job is to ask questions of the scientists to help make findings more meaningful to people who are ill, and people who are trying to support people who are ill and also to provide input to research and proposals.

And so the goal of this seminar is to look at post exertional malaise .. or pem as it's sometimes called or PM um which is a recurrence of uh uh symptoms or worsening of symptoms after exertion and that can be physical it can be mental it can be emotional and it was certainly the one thing that hindered my recovery um and ultimately the understanding of it um which I'll share later was the single biggest contributor tome getting my life back um so this is the seminar that I needed when I was really ill and I'm joined by three amazing colleagues ….”


The 3 'amazing colleagues are Fiona Symington (recovered ME/CFS patient, Member of the COFFI Consumer Advisory Committee), Professor Silge Reme (Health Psychologist, Head of the Mind-Body Laboratory, University of Oslo Steering Group Chair, Oslo Fatigue Network)
and Dr Becca Kennedy (Family Medicine Physician, Portland, Oregon, Member of the Oslo Fatigue Network)


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"cutting edge neuroscience" yeah right.
 
Hi everyone.

Rachel does not take payment for providing recovery stories and no the website you've linked to is not selling recovery stories. Rachel does not make money from her work related to post-viral illness, she puts hours of her free time into this for nothing and has helped many people recover with that. She is motivated by care for people who might be able to get better. I haven't seen anyone else put the hours in that Rachel does, to be honest, and not ask for anything in return.

Its totally unethical to link to her entirely separate business on here, that is her livelihood and she has a family to provide for. You might not agree brain retraining is the answer to M.E but Rachel's work is all about helping vulnerable people by passing on knowledge that helped her in case it also helps them (given it is increasingly linked to lots of recoveries. Please stick to factual things if you want to write that you disagree with what she is doing.
 
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Still catching up but it’s nice to see from this latest rabbit hole:

Whitfield & Garner Recovery Channel

Whitfield part of Positively Covid https://www.positivelycovid.org/ with a medical advisor called….Paul Garner

Positively Covid website seems to state that brain retraining is based on the biopsychosocial model as per below.

So the whole “we aren't psychologising, brain training is a separate and under utilised function which has never had a moment in the sun” falls apart (someone call AL and update him)


“But sometimes the nervous system and neural circuits get activated and get stuck.Why does it get stuck? There are so many experiences that make their mark on our brains and bodies, such as biological influences like the COVID virus, psychological influences like past traumas or fear of future events, and social input such as the news, social media and other cultural influences.

The approach that takes all of these experiences into account is referred to as the biopsychosocial model. Good name huh?

Unfortunately some of these experiences can have such an impact that our brains keep replaying the sense of threat, even if the threat has passed, which then creates a maladaptive response and false alarm bells sound…

…But alas, there is great news! We can change this pattern! How? By interrupting and reprogramming the reactions to the perceived threats. That’s where brain reprogramming or reprocessing comes to the rescue!…”

Full text available here https://www.positivelycovid.org/brain-reprogramming

and in screenshots attached, for info.

Actually my favourite part is “but alas, there is great news!”
 

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Wyva said:
(I was a teenager hooked on MTV when this video came out. Maybe there was another video too, but this was the one they played non-stop on music channels.)
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thanks for confirming! It's a seriously good video and now I've watched it through (with them darting the women etc - gotta love what could be done in the 90s with a bit of tongue in cheek) I'm realising it is familiar

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Bloodhound Gang on Vevo - Official Music Videos, Live Performances, Interviews and more...
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Lou B Lou said:
The function of the COFFI Consumer Advisory Committee, according to Rachel Whitfield.

Seminar, on Youtube 29/11/2024

'COFFI Consumer Dialogue "Post-exertional malaise and setbacks in chronic fatigue conditions'

"Cutting Edge Neuroscience"

Rachel Whitfield:

“Coffi is a group of international scientists, like some of the best scientists in the world that are collaborating around post infectious uh fatigue and other symptoms, and they've been doing it for 10 years.
Some of the Best Scientists International Collaborating at COFFI

And the consumer arm is a group of people

Patients working with scientists

with lived experience that have got together and our job is to ask questions of the scientists to help make findings more meaningful to people who are ill, and people who are trying to support people who are ill and also to provide input to research and proposals.



The 3 'amazing colleagues are Fiona Symington (recovered ME/CFS patient, Member of the COFFI Consumer Advisory Committee), Professor Silge Reme (Health Psychologist, Head of the Mind-Body Laboratory, University of Oslo Steering Group Chair, Oslo Fatigue Network)
and Dr Becca Kennedy (Family Medicine Physician, Portland, Oregon, Member of the Oslo Fatigue Network)


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Quite the group of usual names?
 
Lou B Lou said:
I find Rachel Whitfield rather hard work to watch and listen to .... rather over excitable. Her entire demeanor comes across as 'genuinely wide-eyed, naturally excited and oh so sincere' ...

I would think hardly any of the viewers take it on board that Rachel's video communications are those of a highly skilled professional NLP Master with particular skills in Influencing. Her communication style and words are honed to draw in viewers and to Influence.

Those flappy hands reflect the NLP/Waking Hypnosis method of distracting the viewer from the fact that they are being pulled in and 'worked'.

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is that what the unusual pace of head nodding is about in the Raelan Eagle video then?

something along the lines of 'if you nod then it will influence the watcher to eventually nod with you'/mirror effect?
 
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UkPoster said:
Hi everyone.

Rachel does not take payment for providing recovery stories and no the website you've linked to is not selling recovery stories. Rachel does not make money from her work related to post-viral illness, she puts hours of her free time into this for nothing and has helped many people recover with that. She is motivated by care for people who might be able to get better. I haven't seen anyone else put the hours in that Rachel does, to be honest, and not ask for anything in return.

Its totally unethical to link to her entirely separate business on here, that is her livelihood and she has a family to provide for. You might not agree brain retraining is the answer to M.E but Rachel's work is all about helping vulnerable people by passing on knowledge that helped her in case it also helps them (given it is increasingly linked to lots of recoveries. Please stick to factual things if you want to write that you disagree with what she is doing.
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@UkPoster Wrote - "Its totally unethical to link to her entirely separate business on here, that is her livelihood and she has a family to provide for"


What Utter Nonsense!

Rachel Whitfield's business sites (including her Companies House registration) are
All in the Public Sphere. There is no reason whatsoever that Rachel's business sites (already in the public sphere) should not be posted/linked on any ME/CFS forum.

It is most definitely of interest to people with ME or Long Covid to be provided with the information that Rachel Whitfield has very long experience (since 2003) as a seller of Commercial Coaching courses as a Professional NLP Master and purveyor of 'Influencer Trainings.

Why should people with ME or Long Covid not be allowed to read about Rachel Whitfield's previous (and continuing) Professional Business practices?? Especially as her particular line of business involves specializing in NLP and Influence ?


Why should people with ME or Long Covid not be informed that Rachel has long professional experience (since 2003) in the highly manipulative techniques and tactics of the NLP Influencing commercial industry?

NB @UkPoster - I spent many years in the 'alternative/complementary medicine' world and encountered a Great Many 'NLP Masters' - they were all the biggest manipulators I have ever encountered in my long life.

Are you Seriously suggesting that sick people with ME posting links to and quotes from Rachel Whitfield's Professional Sites onto an ME forum, including her Companies House registration, are somehow threatening Rachel's livelihood and threatening to leave her children destitute as a result?

PURLEASE!


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I try to stay away from the psychosomatic threads on this forum because I get mad and I don’t want to spend my limited energy mad, but I just need to say how infuriating this is. Such utter paternalism to claim we don’t want to get better. We just don’t want to believe fairy tales. I wish people would stop regurgitating the same story about being stuck in a fear/overreaction loop.

Also, in what world is it okay to dismiss a portion of a patient population because they’re not compliant? Would you tell people with treatment-resistant depression that they just don’t want to get better? Would you tell a bipolar person in mania who stopped taking their meds that it’s their fault they’re relapsing? That’s horrible!

I would not be surprised if more stigmatized psychiatric conditions, such as borderline personality disorder, likely get the same blaming treatment as us. I’m not saying the mental health field is free from this blame. Far from it in fact.

The psychosomatic field likes to put us in the same category as mental illnesses as though it is to treat us, but then they reveal the horrible stigma they hold for depression, anxiety, and everything else they claim we have. It’s dismissive to ME/CFS and mental illnesses, and especially those of us who have both.
 
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