UK: Collecting evidence on problematic UK approaches to ME/CFS and Long Covid

Discussion in 'Advocacy Projects and Campaigns' started by JellyBabyKid, Apr 21, 2024.

  1. JellyBabyKid

    JellyBabyKid Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    UK:ME Association funds research for a new clinical assessment toolkit in NHS ME/CFS specialist services, 2023
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    A more serious version of my earlier post to join the dots I currently see:
    • Culture of disbelief (Govt & healthcare): only see through the lens of their own experience
    • Not counting Long Covid and dismissing it as anxiety
    • Dismissing rise of anxiety & depression as the "normal stresses of life" and "over medicalising"
    • Renaming ME as FND: stops further investigations & and bypasses the NICE guidelines
    • Using research that is pre-NICE to justify changing method of assessing patients/clinics and also presented as a treatment "toolkit" (PROMS)
    • Renaming ME clinics as general "Fatigue" clinics; ignores PEM & bypasses the NICE guidelines
    • Presenting rehab as treatment and discharge from clinics as treated
    • No consultant or reviews so lack of evidence
    • Ignoring diagnoses of SevereME in hospital and bypasses the NICE guidelines allowing DOL/sectioning
    • Changes to the benefits system: "everyone capable of some work" & removal of substantial risk
    • Refusal at all levels to listen to patient experience or any criticism, even where justified
    • Attempts to exit the human rights act and overturn supreme court ruling re safely of Rwanda via legislation
    There is a systemic erosion of equality, justice and consideration and the wilful deafness of privilege and power

    I would be interested in putting evidence against all of these points. Some we already have e.g PROMS and my correspondence with ministers around the DWP & the rise of the culture of disbelief, but if anyone else can help with the rest, this might be useful to pull together, along with figuring out measures around FND numbers and SevereME in hospital.

    Edit to add additional bullet point around human right act
     
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  2. JellyBabyKid

    JellyBabyKid Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I would add to this:

    Tainted blood
    Vaginal mesh
    AIDS
    Hillsborough
    Post Office
    Tavistock Clinic?

    There is a culture of disbelief and patient / victim blaming with those harmed having to prove the injustice perpetrated against them and pursue reparation - but how many have died in the meantime? and how much changes as a result?

    this might be a wider cultural / justice issue?
     
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  3. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree it's a wider cultural and justice issue. We may need separate discussion threads on different aspects if this discussion develops. I think getting other UK organisations fighting for justice involved could be worthwhile if they can be presented with a clear case about ME/CFS.

    I think on this thread it's probably more realistic to start with ME/CFS and Long Covid specific information gathering.

    @JellyBabyKid do you envisage creating a document summarising the problems with the problematic directions we see the UK going on ME/CFS and Long Covid, that can be used in advocacy?
     
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  4. JellyBabyKid

    JellyBabyKid Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    In all honesty, I don't have a plan. Yet.

    At present it is just thinking, defining the problem, asking some questions and gathering information.

    Oh. This has got me thinking...Thanks @Trish !
     
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    Maat Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This happened at the Bath clinic 10 years ago, sometime between 2012 and early 2014, when they began helping cancer patients managing fatigue.
     
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  6. TiredSam

    TiredSam Committee Member

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    An article on this subject from the Law Society Gazette:

    https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/featur...City+solicitor+jailed+for+15+years_05/07/2024
     
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