United Kingdom: News from Forward-ME Group

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  1. Fainbrog

    Fainbrog Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I’m happy to contact Andrew. I have emailed him previously re Fwd-ME stuff when he first took over as chair and he was pretty responsive. Will try to do tomorrow and report back in due course.
     
  2. Trish

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    I don't think that's fair to the APPG in that they produced a good report that fed into the government setting up the process to try to get better provision for pwME. An APPG is just a few MP's whose constituents have persuaded them to focus on the topic. It has no official standing and no obigation to continue once it has done all the individuals in the group feel they can do. Carol Monaghan in particular did a lot leading them through parliamentary sessions that are recorded in Hansard and producing their report.

    Similarly, I think Forward ME is, or was as I understand it, just an umbrella group for some ME organisations to coordinate activities. I don't think it has any funding or official status.
     
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  3. Hutan

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    You are, of course, right. I used the 'e.g.' slightly wrong. 'i.e.' would have been closer to my intent. I meant the main UK ME/CFS charities, ideally acting altogether via Forward-ME, or alone.

    As you note above, Forward-ME's context suggests it was set up to act in a unified way. It would be best placed to apply pressure to BACME. That is, if it is functioning. The lack of minutes does raise some doubt about that.
     
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  4. Dx Revision Watch

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  5. Dx Revision Watch

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    Indeed, the group has no official status.

    Since the new Chair took office, it has had a Governance statement and Terms of Reference etc at the bottom of this page:

    https://forward-me.co.uk/governance-meetings/
     
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  6. Dx Revision Watch

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    Thank you, Fainbrog. I've asked Sonya Chowdhury, who is on the Forward-ME Steering Group, but she may not have time to provide a response.
     
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  7. Fainbrog

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    Have had an initial response from Andrew Morris, advising that he stood down as Chair in 'Spring 2023' and someone named Simon Chandler took over. Clearly, not a good sign that the website hasn't been updated to reflect these changes, so, have followed up with the new chair..
     
  8. Dx Revision Watch

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    Thanks, Fainbrog. I agree with what you've said above. Would you mind if I post a paraphrase of your info on Twitter?
     
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  9. Dx Revision Watch

    Dx Revision Watch Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://meassociation.org.uk/2023/03/remember-remember-end-of-an-era-for-award-winning-me-cfs-group/

    Remember reMEmber – end of an era for award-winning ME/CFS group

    March 18, 2023

    "Among the guests last Saturday were chairman of The ME Association Neil Riley with his wife Mary and Simon Chandler [sic], interim chairman of Forward ME, the umbrella campaigning group."


    Simon Chandlers has been involved with Forward-ME since at least October 2020:

    https://meassociation.org.uk/2020/1...om-the-meeting-09-september-with-sean-oneill/


    https://forward-me.co.uk/our-members/

    Simon Chandlers MA CEng FIMechE MAPM
    I am an independent member of the Forward ME having previously served as an NHS CCG Deputy Chair. After a viral illness, which developed into ME, I coordinated Deloitte’s UK Health account. I hope to use my skills and knowledge to help develop better services and thus outcomes for patients. Email: simon.chandlers@btinternet.com


    In the Minutes of the September 9, 2020 meeting he was listed as a rep for the 25% ME Group:

    https://forward-me.co.uk/9th-september-2020/

    Present

    (...)
    Simon Chandler [sic], Tony Crouch (25% ME Group)
     
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  10. Fainbrog

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    No probs sharing. Thanks.
     
  11. Dx Revision Watch

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    Thank you, Fainbrog.
     
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    https://twitter.com/user/status/1759966567696101658


    Sonya Chowdhury
    @SonyaChowdhury


    Andrew Morris stepped back some time ago and Simon Chandlers took over. I don't know who is responsible for the website. We attend meetings when we can but the grouip is still active

    3:41 PM · Feb 20, 2024


    https://twitter.com/user/status/1759986719020200237


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    Thank you for your response, Sonya. If no-one is currently managing the website, are summaries or meeting minutes not otherwise being published?
     
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    There is nothing that I can see on the website or on previous minutes that clarifies who the secretariat for Forward-ME is.

    @Russell Fleming As someone who used to attend Forward-ME meetings on behalf of the ME Association, do you know who is currently providing secretariat support??
     
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    There's some discussion about matters related to Forward-ME here (follow the arrow in the quote header)
     
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  16. Trish

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    Posts discussing this have been moved to this thread. Please go there to continue the discussion.
     
  17. PeterW

    PeterW Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Moved post

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    Key points from Forward ME meeting (on 22 May 2024):

    · DHSC presentation of responses to IDP consultation given. Reassuringly reflects ME community views well. Election affects future actions & timelines.

    · FME to write to all NHS Trusts/ICB heads to highlight continuing practices in contravention of NICE guidelines (Contaminated Blood scandal similarities).

    · BACME conf (137 attendees 16 May) feedback highlighted launch of e-learning module and useful workshops, as well as concerns around claims for dysregulation model “as seen in NICE guidelines” when it is NOT. Question over attendance at FME by BACME requires discussion.

    · Call for all FME members to share list key activities for shared access to assist co-ordination and clarity of priorities and timings.

    · Consideration to consultancy project to pull together key issues summary, shared vision, aims and priority tasks for all to best achieve progress.

    Please see notes for action points.
    Next meeting date is Wed 3 July, 2pm - please make a note in your diary.

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    I wasn't able to attend that meeting due to (professional) work commitments, but looking back at past emails, this is the meeting summary I received. I'll see if I can find anything more.
    Minutes were missing for a while because of lack of resource, but thankfully this is now improving.
     
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  18. MEMarge

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    Thanks for the above:

    BACME's response to a request from Trish asking if more PPI would be allowed to join the conference was: "There will be two Forward ME members attending who can share information with people living with ME/CFS. We have therefore decided that, for this year's conference, we are not able to accept more attendees who are not clinicians. We always include Patient and Carer videos in the Conference format."

    Can we therefore ask for Denise's report to be shared @MBailey @PeterW
     
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  19. MBailey

    MBailey Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hi @MEMarge , just to let you know I've emailed Simon Chandler (Chair of Forward-ME) to make sure he's aware of your request and to say #MEAction UK is happy for Denise's report to be shared publicly.
    There might also be a report to Forward-ME from Russell Fleming (MEAssociation), the other attendee, I'm not sure.

    I'm sure either Simon or @PeterW will let us know where and when they decide to share it.
     
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  20. PeterW

    PeterW Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Both Simon and I responded quickly to say that we are happy for these reports to be shared, and that we had no wish to withold these - have they been published now?
     
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