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Hillary Johnson‏ @oslersweb "I suspect there is a central cause of the disease, I agree with Maureen....ultimately we want to figure out what that organism is and get rid of it. Many people are trying to sort that out." Ron Davis 11:57 AM - 7 Sep 2019 ULTIMATELY?? How About F***ing NOW!

Oh no, it's that evil Norwegian SOCIALISM!

Also known as 'Alternative Facts,' I always said anything about ME could be buried in a deep enough pile of bullshit, that is the CDCs and UK BPS crowds job. It's been buried since the 1934 outbreak and the sealed class action lawsuit settled with the staff of the Los Angeles County Hospital.

Much of the history of that period was lost in the great purge of entire threads, massive after the fact editing and revision on forums leading to an exodus and the formation of new forums (themselves with great content now lost as they went into the bit void). Like the termination of the CFSAC...

Two ways to hide the truth, bury it in an ever deeper pile of shit, delete it and pretend it never happened - tabula rasa.

Besides issues at times with actually watching videos due to vision or cognitive problems, I can't stream content with ISP and bandwidth limitations. It's a transcript or nothing.

I can't watch videos, has anyone done a transcript?

It's all gaslight Alvin. After 35 years it's all the same playbook, just variations of the same moves.

@Sean It seems way beyond incompetence or covering your ass from prior 'mistakes.' Thus it raises eyebrows at the very least. How was Anthony Fauci able to 'visit' a member of congress and shut down a congressional investigation? Why have others been 'warned off' from investigating? Why...

I understand the context of what @ukxmrv was saying, we've had awareness raising in the 80s, in the 90s, in the 00s, and now the 10s. At what point do we get beyond the 'awareness raising?' Every illness can use a bit now and then to get into the public conscience or to get more support from...

The defense of PACE is astounding, why take this 'weird rare disease' of ME and stake the reputations of so many researchers, institutions, and publications on its validity? Why give a quack a knighthood? There is something here that seems out of proportion, and desperate. Pick another...

Well this is interesting, no less in part since I've had many practitioners exclaim at the heat or 'energy' coming off my head. Once I had ice packs on my lumbar spine and cervical spine left for about 15 minutes, upon removing the lumbar one it was a bit slushy, but the doctor lifting the...

No 'Talking 'bout ME Generation' without me.

Not harmful? Look at his original post, on that thread an LP victim mentions who he was referred to, and that most of the patients probably just parroted the 'I am better' required statement (that is what LP is, just saying that over and over). However, one of those 'better' patients up and...

Oy (facepalm), really? Again with this 'stress loop' nonsense. Been here, done that. It is a rehash of the idea of heterogeneous chronic fatiguing illnesses caused not by a pathogen, but by a 'stress loop' inappropriate response. Regardless of physiological findings, this is a BPS favorite...

I wonder if anyone from the leading edge of 'generation ME' is still about from 1934? Even early teens would be nearly 100 and this is not a disease that lends itself to longevity. Heck of a generation.

It's a religion and as such only requires initiation by other members of the priesthood. As a faith, of course they needn't check facts!

@Joh Ryugakusei deshita. I was a foreign exchange student to Japan. Karoshi is the 'death by overwork.' I suppose it doesn't help staying all evening at work whether you have something to do or not, then going out drinking with coworkers until midnight or whenever the last trains home are...

Besides the self-interest of these vultures it is in the nature of the psych lobby to make pronouncements based upon no evidence but their own opinions. In fact that is the basis of their whole profession.

The statistics used by Pharma to cite research and development costs of new drugs is rather muddied as a fair amount of research is government funded, yet the patents are held by private companies. Seems a bad return on taxpayer funds. The next tiny violin goes to the fact that they spent ten...