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I'd be happy with that, but it isn't just the three of us: as with most of these papers, many key authors prefer to remain unnamed. I'll mention it to them and get back to you.

Great stuff. It's a shame that the choir website and the Wheal Martyn website have not yet included it on their programmes, or I could pass the link on.

I'm impressed, Robert! Duly posted on my Facebook account. (I see you borrowed some of the Sunflower singers!)

Don't fret, Alvin: I didn't take it that way. My pleasure is that they are starting to respond, rather than stonewalling. They still have a long way to go, but they is "establishment" at their core, so this is a big step for them. I have come across a number of patients who have found CBT...

I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm really pleased that AfME is taking a proper look at its stance on PACE, CBT and GET, and that Clare continues to participate in discussions here. I have this little private fantasy that one day all the ME groups will realize that although there are...

It's a fun little quiz, with a few typos, but the danger with this sort of thing is that, in an effort to create something simple, you end up with things that aren't quite right. There are two sorts of problems. The first is that, say, with the question on donating blood, or on research...

Nice idea! I'll leave my subconscious working on it this afternoon.

It's strange, but I seem to have a 45 minute battery. I can potter along for about that amount of time, then I need to rest. So that's how long I take the dog out for a walk: that's my maximum driving range: when I used to work at maths problems, that was my limit before I stopped being able to...

This is a strange one - I could go up three flights of stairs and only be puffed temporarily. I'd not be able to run up them two at a time like I used to: it would be a steady plod. And yet so many of you have so much difficulty with that, it makes me feel as if my ME must be mild. Yet it has...

I actually wrote to the editor and explained what I wanted to do - to extract the data from the graphs and use them in an article on CBT and CFS - and explained that I had tried to get hold of the data from the authors and had been refused - "vexatious". The editor, who I will leave as...

Someone mentioned a link to a Powerpoint set of slides of the graphs, and they were in much higher resolution. I copied them into Photoshop, and constructed a grid to the appropriate size so that I could read the values more accurately, which I did. Then, while asking an editor if it was...

There are two graphs - one marked Fitness and one Borg. They didn't combine the results. There is a description of all the tests in the appendix to Chalder et al's paper on rehabilitative therapies for cfs ... They did think of using lifting weights for the Borg assessment, but decided...

Oh Esther, my faith in your invincibility has been shattered! It's the acceleration due to gravity, to change a weight in kg into a force in Newtons. The values that I worked out from a large version of the fitness graph were mean (calculated s.d. from displayed confidence interval) SMC 1.83...

I'm brain dead at the moment, and almost catching up, but here are the notes I made at the time. There were two different ways of analysing the results of the step test: one was more objective, the other subjective. The big problem, of course, was that they were self-paced, and most of the...

Interesting how another proponent of mind-body therapy only reports on mind assessments and relegates body assessments to a later date.

Thanks for responding Clare, and I'm sure you are feeling swamped and something of being "piggy in the middle" as you explain AfME's position. Please remember that these comments are directed at AfME's assessment of the evidence, and not at you personally: we are pleased that you are open to...

It is important though to ask folk to add something of their own to the letter. MPs get a lot of emails, and can just skip over standard copies. If you really want to make an impact - write. Half a dozen people writing to an MP will really wake them up to the problem.

No, no, @Binkie4 , your comment was perfectly understandable and amusing. This is just another tedious example of my weird sense of humour. I need to explain here that I was a maths teacher, and we are trained to be weird. Obviously, some people escape through the net and remain normal (don't...

I don't want to see MEMarge thirded. She's much too nice a person for that to happen. So please explain: first, second, third, fourth, fifth versus whole, half, third, quarter, fifth: what idiotic counting system set up that confusion?

I was a member of AfME for a very long time, and it was brilliant in the early days when we knew so little. I stuck with it through the early PACE years because I hoped that reasoning would win through, but eventually lost heart. I am perfectly able to accept their membership of this forum...