A general thread on the PACE trial!

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Esther12, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Except for paediatrics?
     
  2. Dolphin

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    The FINE Trial wasn’t published till 2010: https://www.bmj.com/content/340/bmj.c1777
     
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  4. DigitalDrifter

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    Just looked at that paper and they're using the 2007 NICE guidelines criteria, so anybody with 6 months of chronic fatigue could be included.
     
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    Bumping this again as some may have missed @Adam pwme request for help tracking down an item from ME Assn magazine.
     
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    I found the following via Wayback Machine, which may be the thing @Adam pwme is looking for:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040805094145/http://www.meassociation.org.uk/fcampaign.htm

     
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  8. JohnTheJack

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    I'm not sure if this has been posted somewhere already, but if not I suppose this could count as 'PACE trial - Where are they now?'

    Emeritus Professor of Psychological Medicine at the University of Oxford Michael Sharpe has now started a consultancy making available to others (for a fee, of course) his expertise, including 'design and implementation of integrated services and large scale research evaluations of them' using his 'extensive experience of leading and advising local, national and international organisations at Board level'.

    The link is on his Twitter home page which boasts his support for 'freedom of enquiry' (sic).
     
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    A great many of us cannot read that on Twitter, because Michael Sharpe is so confident in himself and his work that he has blocked most of us on Twitter, thus avoiding being challenged with the *Evidence that he is wrong

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  10. JohnTheJack

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    I have a second account in another browser. It's sort of 'clean' as I don't follow anyone and don't post anything with it.
     
  11. DigitalDrifter

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    If he is claiming that the London criteria is properly defined ME, why did the ME Association keep using a pre-covid prevalence figures of 250,000 (nearly 0.4%)?

    According to the 2014 London criteria (Co-Written by Charles Shepherd) ME affects 1 per 1000
    (0.1%). which equates to 67,000 people in the UK. http://web.archive.org/web/20150923181011/http://www.axfordsabode.org.uk/me/mecrit2014.htm
     
  12. JellyBabyKid

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    ...And this post is how I found out that I am blocked by Michael Sharpe. Who I have never interacted with.

    Excellent "support for 'freedom of enquiry" :rolleyes:
     
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