Brain cells

[BrokenBeaktheBrave]

Having Paul Garner shooting off on social media isn't something I would take too seriously. Garner isn't even a psychiatrist. And he is retired. Garner is a symptom of a confused social state, not a driver. He makes a lot of noise but is unlikely to influence professional groups.

He does do a lot of the public bidding for the people that do influence professional groups though so it's hard to ignore.

I would discourage people from being in 'ME groups' where this becomes just a negative meme.

I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying you discourage ME patients to be in community? Apologies if I'm misunderstanding - relentless brain fog is my worst symptom.

 

[SugarSquared]

I would discourage people from being in 'ME groups' where this becomes just a negative meme.

Can you clarify what you mean by meme? I’ve noticed that you use it in a different way from how I understand it as a 23 year old.

 

[Kitty]

He makes a lot of noise but is unlikely to influence professional groups.

And those professional groups aren't going to be interested in the likes of Garner either. He's become the embarrassing uncle that everyone tries to avoid inviting to weddings.

 

[Yann04]

Can you clarify what you mean by meme? I’ve noticed that you use it in a different way from how I understand it as a 23 year old.

I think it’s the sort of original Richard Dawkins definition. As in a cultural idea that spreads through imitation.

(Of which internet jokes — ie. modern definition of meme, are one example).

 

[SugarSquared]

I think it’s the sort of original Richard Dawkins definition. As in a cultural idea that spreads through imitation.

(Of which internet jokes — ie. modern definition of meme, are one example).

I had no idea there was another definition than the internet jokes one. Thanks!

 

[Lisan_Al_Ghaib_87]

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Oh Hell, at one point i thought the account replying on @DMissa post with the CBT crap was our very @ME/CFS Science Blog

 

[Kitty]

I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying you discourage ME patients to be in community? Apologies if I'm misunderstanding - relentless brain fog is my worst symptom.

Answering at a tangent: there might genuinely be an issue for people with ME/CFS who get to hear some of the discussion on S4ME but don't have the resources to spend a long time catching up with the way things are debated.

Maybe all that can be said is that people have been chasing the ideas they like for 40 years and it got us nowhere. Good scientists confront what they find, even if they don't like it or it proves them wrong.

In any case, discovering some genetic variants could be a risk for both ME/CFS and depression (or autism, or schizophrenia) wouldn't mean the diseases or the treatments have much in common. It doesn't even mean that most people with ME/CFS carry those variants—they probably don't.

 

[PageofME]

the Americans with Polybio are receiving a lot of funding for viral persistence

Thanks god for that. I've been waiting for this research to take off for four years. They are following the empirical data actually.