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Crowdfunding: Trial By Error [David Tuller]: Reporting on ME, CFS, ME/CFS, "medically unexplained symptoms," and related stuff, Fall 2020

Discussion in 'Fundraising' started by Andy, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ditto.
     
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  2. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @Invisible Woman and @dave30th - I agree, I found the recent mailing, to 'commemorate', or something, that I had donated over the last 3 years - really quite annoying. High grade card and paper stock, together with probably non recyclable stickers - probably sent a third of the way round the planet - for what?

    Completely pointless waste of money, resources, etc.

    Berkeley seems not to have any conception as to why such wasteful practices are a bad thing, for many people.

    ETA - the paper/card went straight into the recycling, the stickers, unfortunately, probably aren't recyclable - so that is probably more plastic waste.

    Things may work differently in the US, this may be seen as a valid form of marketing, but I do not live in the US, and TBH even if I did, is it really an appropriate use of resources?

    I do fully realise that this is Berkeley doing this, probably a general marketing policy, to go along with the several emails a week they love sending me, seemingly specifically designed to defeat spam filters, and not down to you @dave30th, but such behaviour has the opposite effect to that probably intended - it makes me not want to have anything to do with Berkeley.
     
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  3. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well, I guess some might see it as "you have to speculate to accumulate" and a nice letter might make you put your hand in your pocket more readily next time round?

    Some people might only be able to donate a fiver (& they all add up) so rather annoying to thing they might be spending as much on the letters as a person donates.
     
  4. boolybooly

    boolybooly Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Backing you all the way dave.

    Would it be possible to link this thread or the fundraising webpage in a banner notice at the top of the S4ME webpages for the last week of fundraising ? Like the banner for the "news in brief" currently at the top of my page. Just for a week.
     
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  5. Andy

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    Sure, let's hope so, because what I was obviously doing was calling another patient a miser :):)
     
  6. rainy

    rainy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Donated. It means so much that you are doing this @dave30th. Seeing your work and knowing that we have someone like you that cares about our situation has been such a comfort for many years now.
     
  7. dave30th

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    yeah, I get this. it's an automatic thing. I have had a number of people complain about it.

    What I can do is ask the support folks to remove the names/e-mails of specific people who ask me not to be contacted with unnecessary updates and want to be unlisted.

    The thing is I'm really the only one of all the campaigns who gets significant donations from outside the US--and even from outside California. Most donations are local because most of the projects are local--on or near campus. So I suppose it makes sense for Berkeley as a promotional thing despite the waste of resources.

    I wish there were more I could do about it. I realize that many people don't want to receive this meaningless stuff.
     
  8. Daisybell

    Daisybell Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It would be far better if Berkeley could stop all the emails and letters to all your donors, and put a couple of percent back towards your salary! Especially as those people donating towards you are extremely unlikely to support Berkeley in any other way....
     
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  9. Andy

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  10. andypants

    andypants Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Donated.

    Not sure I would be able to this time, but luckily I overestimated some expenses this month and it turned out I had more wiggle room then I thought :)
     
  11. Starlight

    Starlight Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I hope there are many more like myself who haven't yet donated. I fully intend to and will do tonight or tomorrow. When the fundraiser is coming close to the end I want to feel I still can do something and that is why I wait. I cannot imagine what it would be like if we did not have David Tuller doing the job that he does for us. We couldn't replace him,and I think we need him more than ever.
     
  12. Sean

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    The timing was fortunate for me this year as the donation period covers three paydays, instead the usual two.

    So still one more donation to come. :thumbsup:
     
  13. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Mine still to come too

    now at 58% $35k
     
  14. Tom Kindlon

    Tom Kindlon Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I just donated and shared it around in various places in the hope it might also help.
     
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  17. mango

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    Donated :) I'm immensely grateful, @dave30th, thank you so much!
     
  18. alktipping

    alktipping Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    me too i think it is a marketing programme you know for those you can afford to give larger donations in their wills possibly .
     
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