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Investigating the relationship between physical activity and Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Franklin, 2021

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Dolphin, Jun 25, 2021.

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  1. Trish

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    Trish, Aug 1, 2024
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    So many reasons why the Laren et al review is flawed
     
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    I believe it was the difference with controls expressed as a percentage of the baseline value.
     
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    It's a strange situation because we don't know what the correct data is. if I understand correctly, Wallman et al. gave the raw data to Larun and colleagues but no longer have it themselves. So we don't know if the original Wallman publication is right or Larun et al. or what explains the difference. Franklin tried to contact Larun et al. but they did not respond.
     
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    That is how they win. They can't meet robust methodological standards, the ones they demand of non-psychosomatic research, so they simply lower them until they can.

    Et voila! Success!

    It really is that appallingly bad.
     
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    That seems weird. If it was my data I wouldn’t just have one copy how 20th century. Plus if I had given my only copy to someone else I wouldn’t let it drop if they didn’t reply to my emails, other forms of communication exist.
     
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